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EGR VALVE HELP!!!

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#1 ·
Hello everyone,
I have just purchased a new truck and am new to the forum. Im not that familiar with the 6.0's and need some expertise from those who are. any help is appreciated!

Vehicle Specs: 2004 Ford F-350 xlt, 6.0, automatic, 4x4, extended cab short bed.
As far as modifications the previous owner was pretty unhelpful in detailing what was done.

The check engine light came on yesterday throwing these codes: p0401, p0488, b1676, c1185.
Im pretty sure the p0401 is an issue with the egr valve, so I went to look under the hood in hopes of being able to pull it out, clean it, replace washers, and re-install to hopefully fix the problem but when I looked under the hood I saw this.

Why would it be in this position? Are the codes something to worry about?
Thanks you all for any help :icon_ford:
 

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#5 ·
Thank you for the quick reply!!
I am hoping it is just a blown fuse as far as the B1676 code, and I don't need a new alternator.
I have been looking into EGR delete kits prior to this discovery. Should I still install one of these products or do you think it is fine as is? is the p0401 code any cause for concern?
 
#7 ·
you have the first two codes as EGR codes the other two are ABS

i would have someone go over that whole truck

and get those hose clamps off and probably get all new boots =4 and all new CAC boot clamps

another thing is that alternator post looks close to the metal CAC tube make sure it can't touch
 
#12 ·
I would go over everything, fix the issues, and check/change fluids before I started throwing money at boots and clamps that seem to be holding for the time being. Just my cheap novice opinion.
 
#13 ·
The EGR valve laying there is really at the bottom of the list.

The CAC system craziness is one issue. You have what looks to be a fairly dirty K&N air filter that should be addressed (i.e., replaced. entirely.) The wiring is giving me the heebie-jeebies, btw. What hose clamps were to CAC pipes, duct tape was to harnesses, it seems.

Before digging in, I'd recommend that you have a shop look at it and do the initial maintenance. Also, you're pulling codes. It'd be wonderful if you could use that same device to monitor some pressures and temps and post the results. What are you using to get codes?

If you can't monitor with the device your using, that's your next important purchase, in my view.
 
#17 ·
fair enough



but it does run and it only has a few codes that are not critical



if he does drive it on the road with those worm drive clamps and compromised boots



he should be prepared for a pant shating boom and a loss of power and a tow home


As long as it doesn't start puking coolant!

I've heard the boom you speak of test driving the day I installed 90hp injectors and a big turbo. I nearly threw up.

So I agree, boots and clamps are on the priority list.
 
#18 ·
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Wat is this?


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#19 ·
Automated hose clamp tightening control unit?

Regarding the original P0401 that got you looking at the EGR valve... that code is triggered based on the PCM not seeing the expected temperature change in the intake (IAT) based on actuation of the EGR. Since your EGR is deleted, so there's no way for the temp to change.

Thing is... IIRC, a 2004 shouldn't throw the code based on a delete alone. Mine doesn't. So, you may have something going on with your IAT sensor or your MAF sensor may not be connected or connected right to the K&N. ...or you have a later flash in the PCM (?).

It's not anything to worry about so much now. It'll just be on the list of things to attend to. I'm just answering because you asked
 
#21 ·
Later flash will trip the cel. My 04 does.


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#25 ·
Got it to no retro. I was thinking that they could flash either latest or original, but it follows that Ford wouldn't allow that. Seems a shame that Ford won't return a vehicle to as-sold condition. ...seeing as Ford sold it that way.
 
#27 ·
thats what I have been told for years
Ford dealers don't have access to previous versions and it's because of emission and vehicle self preservation changes

if the original flash was the fastest and best but was breaking components or had an emissions related issue
they wouldn't want us to say "hey my truck ran better before return it to my old flash it "

once it is done it is done and they no longer have that old flash on a device ,, I am sure there are folks out there that can work around it but not a regular dealer


the EGR code setting a CEL is an emission thing as is a glow plug so the later flashes set a CEL for even 1 bad glow plug so the later flashes all set the CEL
it may have been a Cali truck also they set a CEL if you fart in the cab
 
#28 ·
First off let me just say THANK YOU to everyone that responded, really appreciate the help!!

There were a lot of questions brought up but to answer some, yes that is what the box hanging there is, it was for the western plow attachment.

So from what I gathered, here is my priority list: (please advise or correct)
1. turbo seal, new boots
2. change/ refill fluids
3. fix abs
4. diagnose egr
5. upgrade oil cooler
6. install sct

Please feel free to put in your 2 cents, about anything you agree or disagree with!
 
#29 ·
First off let me just say THANK YOU to everyone that responded, really appreciate the help!!

There were a lot of questions brought up but to answer some, yes that is what the box hanging there is, it was for the western plow attachment.

So from what I gathered, here is my priority list: (please advise or correct)
1. turbo seal, new boots
2. change/ refill fluids
3. fix abs
4. diagnose egr
5. upgrade oil cooler

6. install sct

Please feel free to put in your 2 cents, about anything you agree or disagree with!
3. Do you have an ABS light on? If not clear the code and see if it stays gone. The code I read was for low voltage.
4. You have an EGR delete. No need to diagnose.
5. Do you even know what your deltas are. No need to do anything to you oil cooler until you know. It might be fine.
6. SCT would really be just to turn off the EGR code/check engine light it is setting. Also is nice to have tunes available.

These trucks can be expensive when they need repairs. Don't go fixing things that aren't broke.
 
#30 ·
^^^ This is why I suggested taking it to a shop for a check and initial maintenance. I wasn't trying to be insulting to the OP and his skills. It's just that a shop will be able to do the pre-buy instruction that wasn't done pre-buy.

Delta reading... coolant pressure check... contribution/balance... A good shop can do lots of quick checks to give a great read on the vehicle.

You don't have to rely on them for the work. It's just to get your bearings.

...and my recommendation of the CAI didn't make the list. You'd be shocked at how much air these engines are getting under heavy acceleration. ...or not getting, as the case may be.
 
#32 ·
I used to be more cavalier about the K&N. @ZMANN learned me good.