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Upgrading battery/alternator wiring

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#1 ·
I have a E1999 F250 I am in process of updating battery/alternator wiring. I am planning on upgrading my alternator, so I can charge camper batteries while driving down the road. I was planning on using a DC to DC 60amp charger in the camper, possible of up to 75+ amps draw from the truck to charge the camper batteries under high load.

I have added a second 2AWG wire going from the driver’s battery to the passenger’s side battery, and added an extra ground from the alternator to the Driver’s battery. I have gained and extra 70amps peak going to the starter/glow plugs during the starting process just from adding these wires.

I am going to upgrading to a 220Amp Singer Alternator. I wanted to run a addition 1/0AWG wire from the new alternator to the Drivers side battery, and still leave the little original 6AWG cable in place. This allows the majority of the charging to go through much larger wires. I do not know if this is a good Idea or not to leave both wires in place and changing the charging route.

Any feedback on what I want to do?
 
#2 ·
rip it all out and start from scratch. adding "extra" wires, simply adds new ground paths... and 90% of all electronic interference come from multiple ground paths. want to increase your issues with the CPU/ECU/PGM? (whatever you want to call it) add extra wires and watch the fireworks. want to upgrade a wire, do it replace it in its entirety, do the same for the corresponding ground wires. do not scrimp, you will pay for it in the end.
 
#4 ·
So I believe the 2 original ground straps from the engine to each battery are 1/0AWG. So I shouldn't need the additional ground strap from the alternator to the drivers battery.

The hot wire from the alternator gets a little more complex. Running an 1/0AWG to replace the 6AWG gets more complicated since it goes from the alternator to glow plug relay then to relay on the passager side above the wheel well then to the passengers battery. Most of these runs are through wire harnesses. I was really hoping I could charge the batteries from the opposite direction directly into the drivers battery.
 
#10 ·
I am not at this time, but I am planning on a DC
, are you running lithium batteries ? in the camper

i had my camper all dialed in with truck alternator bi directional charging , solar , generator and then I bought some lithiums and have to start from scratch if I want to charge them to more than 80%
Presently AGM batteries, I'm fortunate, my camper is just over 2 years old. The solar controller and the charger/inverter controler both are programable for Lithium. The DC to DC charger is also programmable for both AGM and lithium.
 
#8 ·
I was trying to stay in the shadows here.

I agree throwing cables all over the place causes issues, negative or positive, whether you're trained in current flow or electron flow. But I don't have an issue with a layover cable starting and ending at the same points. Things can get whacked out when you start running electronics directly to the battery, and usually, that's what's found when people have floating voltages. The 6.0L is supposed to be better at suppression from ham operators, but I haven't played with the 7.3L electrical system.

The 7.3L has somewhat of a better battery-to-engine block pathway, with both batteries connecting to the block, while the 6.0 uses the frame as part of the negative bus bar, so two more connections of some resistance. The starter won't care much, but it gives a weird negative path. But neither situation is ideal.

That's about all I can say about the 7.3L.
 
#16 ·
thanks Ken,
I remember reading that stuff before because I needed to know how to take care of an Off Grid battery given to me by my son.

we use it to water our trees, a normal Car Battery cannot withstand that kind of abuse, 2 hours running a 12V RV 5 gpm Water Pump pushing out 200 to 300 gallons every evening.

I throw it on a Charger designed for Lithium batteries and walk away, so it will be good tomorrow.
come winter, it comes in the house, I float it up, and take the charger off until next summer.
 
#19 · (Edited)
an Example here,
my Golf Cart batteries are "on charge" 24/7/365

but, the charger is a "smart charger" and knows how to treat them, reference usage, and ambient temperature.

just 6 months ago, I had to get a new pack of batteries, the OEM Trojans were 17 plus years old, and "only one" cell went bad, which ruined the whole pack. I suspicion that cell went dry and I did not notice it, I was away from home in the hot summer for 3 months, taking care of sick family.... my daughter was using the cart daily to carry 300 gallons of water to trees.


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during the cold months, I keep a 4.5 Amp Battery Tender on my Excursion, it adjusts voltage for colder temperatures.
Warm? 13.3
Frigid? 14.3

4.5 Amp Battery Tender