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SD Plastic Fuel tank in an OBS

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#1 · (Edited)
Hey Guys,

I started dreaming of a larger fuel tank years ago, and this weekend was going to be the time to fab up a nice large steel front tank.

I pulled the box off, to see what I was up against.

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Then I read this post
http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/94...org/forum/94-98-7-3l-general-powerstroke-discussion/203561-front-fuel-tank.html

Which got me thinking, will an SD tank fit in an OBS. I had one from my 06 parts donor truck, so I had nothing to lose. I was pulling the factory front tank anyways, so why not try and fit it up.

Here is all the tanks.

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The SD and the OBS tank both use the rear crossmember for anchoring, but the SD uses a different one for the front. It still lines up, but it leaves a bit of a gap where the front OBS tank would mount. It has an area molded to bypass that front OBS crossmember, but it sits 1/2 inch away from it.

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The SD tank also extends farther rearward than the OBS tank.

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This proved problematic, since on an SD, the shock on the drivers side is behind the axle, but on an OBS its in front of the axle. The tank ends up being about 1/2 inch away from the shock once mounted in place. It was closer when I started, but I put a bit of an angle on the tank, and that gave me more room.

So, the tank fits, but the sender is another story. The angles of the supply and return lines make the existing OBS fuel lines completly in the wrong spot.

I had to modify the SD sender, by bending up the alignment tabs, to rotate the sender in the hole, to allow the pickup lines to line up. This meant adjusting the direction of the fuel level sender. I had quite the gong show trying to move it (broke the SD sender, welded on an OBS sender, it was in the wrong spot, cut it off, did it again, bent the SD wire to fit the OBS sender) it just seemed nothing was working right). In the end, I got it where it needed to be.

While the sender was out, I also did the Harpoon mod on the tank:
Welcome to guzzle's In-tank Harpoon Mod Web Page.

The SD and the OBS fuel sender weatherpack connectors are the same, but the pinout is different. I dismantled the connector, and moved the pins to where they should be on the OBS.

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After putting the sender in the tank, I wired it up and turned the key on. I wanted to see where actual empty was in the tank. The sender sits about 1.5" from the bottom of the tank so there is still quite a bit of fuel at under the red on the fuel gauge.

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I then strapped the tank into the truck, so I could start fabbing up tank straps. I dont recall completely, but I think the skidplate on the 06 was the tank holder. Since I was impatient and was cleaning up the yard, I scrapped the skidplate for the tank. That was very unsmart on my part.

Fabbing the straps were more difficult than I thought, but I figured it was because I used a 12gauge steel strap that was 3" wide. Its way overkill, but I dont want this tank falling out either.

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I welded nuts to the bottom, so I can fab up a skidplate later. I want to prove the tank is good, and everything works before getting to involved.

I painted the straps, and shut it down for the night. Tomorrow I will put in the straps, and get the lines hooked up. I will take more pics of where the tank lines up after everything is installed. I am intrigued to see how much it holds, Im hoping its at least a 28 gallon tank. I would be ecstatic if it was the 38 gallon tank.
 
#3 ·
lookin good larry, i kept my SD tank as well but never have time to sit down and look at this stuff... but i kept the skid plate. i actually belive the tank was held in with stapps and the skid plate went around it but never touched it. thats how i remember it, so no loss on your part
 
#4 ·
I never actually looked into what tanks fit what. Im hoping its a direct swap, not that you need the tank from a crew cab to fit an OBS crew cab.

By the looks of the plastic on the side of the tank, the skidplate keeps a lot of road rash from damaging the tank, as opposed to just bouncing over large rocks. The outward facing side has been peppered with grid road rocks and sand, nothing deep, but enough to show that the plastic is somewhat fragile.
 
#5 ·
Good info to keep an eye on.
 
#7 · (Edited)
Tanks In !

It ends up being 3/8" away from the shock, and relatively far from the driveshaft.

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If you look at the sending unit, you can see the black line, that was drawn on to represent the lengthwise dimension of the tank, for when I was welding on the fuel sender bracket

Just to the right of the black tightening ring, you can see a white half of an arrow (its faint, but there). This is where the large stamped arrow should have lined up with in its factory position. With everything tweaked to fit, the fuel lines clipped right on, I cranked a bit on the 90 fuel line bend on the frame, just to make things a little happier.

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The truck goes into the body shop on monday , so I am waiting to put the box on until I get it back. I hope everything works with the tank, so I am not trying to pull the freshly painted box off to replace fuel tanks and lines.
 
#10 ·
I had some pictures of the sender, but when I transfered them, I deleted them somehow.

In the end, all that needs to happen to the sender is the alignment tabs need to be bent down to allow the sender to turn, and the piece of tin that the sender sits on needs to be turned to line up with the new direction.

I have some leftovers from the senders, I will try and piece together some pictures to illustrate the differences in the floats.
 
#9 ·
^^^x2.... is that the sender out of the SD or the OBS, or did u make it custom, i will be looking to do this once i get on a garage floor (maby in terrys garage) and not my parents drive way
 
#11 ·
bring it on

I had some pictures of the sender, but when I transfered them, I deleted them somehow.

In the end, all that needs to happen to the sender is the alignment tabs need to be bent down to allow the sender to turn, and the piece of tin that the sender sits on needs to be turned to line up with the new direction.

I have some leftovers from the senders, I will try and piece together some pictures to illustrate the differences in the floats.
i'm looking forward to it
 
#13 ·
The ohms are the same, both start at 15 ohms for empty, and 160ish for full. Its just the orientation of the sender that is different, they are mirror images of each other. Just different enough that they are not interchangeable. If I had not broke the resistance circuit board, I would be using the SD sender
 
#14 ·
Ok.... gotcha, i belive mine is all intact so im good. That way i dont have to worry about moding the fuel float and i plan on sumping the pickup tube anyhow so no biggy about the location of the lines.
 
#15 ·
Very cool :thumb:
 
#16 ·
I hate to say this,but I told you so guys!!! I have an 06 tank sitting on my garage floor as well, its a 38 gallon from a cclb, minus the sender though...

Looks good so far bud, when you gonna throw some d2 in her and try it out??

Sent from my Galaxy S2 while my wife is yelling at me for being on my phone...
 
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#17 ·
As soon as the truck comes back from the body shop :)

Its booked in for monday for a new coat of paint, and I figured I might as well get it done since I had the box off, and needed the tonneau painted.

As soon as its home, everything is going back together, then its efuel conversion time, then a quick road trip to test everything, then hook onto the camper and drag it across 3 provinces.
 
#18 ·
East or West?
 
#20 ·
Let me know when you're in Calgary, maybe we can grab a coffee/beer/whatever. :)
 
#23 ·
The bed is pseudo back on. Its in the body shop right now, with 2 bolts in it, hoping they remove it to paint the cab. I will probably pull it again when I get home.

Everything did clear. I added a 5/8" vent into the top of the rear tank, and that hose cleared, as well as everything on the SD tank.
 
#24 ·
if you have time and are interested I have room here in Osoyoos for a trailer/motorhome for an evening or 3...private beach included...hell...I'll even take ya up the hill to fish in the pram!!!!


google willow beach Osoyoos...will be warm tho!!


always lookin' for friends with diesel trucks...cos I don't have one....yet!!:eek:
 
#27 ·
Updates, no.

I have been using it for long trips, and it is AWESOME to have the extra capacity. Both tanks full, plus the in bed tank, is just under 100 gallons to fill, and I made it to Minneapolis from Saskatoon, and had fuel to spare (3/4 of the rear tank)

With the separate fuel vent in the neck, it fills way quicker too.

If my other truck wasnt so low to the ground, I would convert it too. The tank hangs way too low to convert a 2wd.
 
#30 ·
U need to work on that e-brake set up there larry:poke