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Low circuit Codes on injectors 1,4,6,7. Ficm or did 4 injectors drop onetime?

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Low circuit 1,4,6,7 injectors. No power running on only 4cylinders

Early 04 6.0l. Driving perfect one day next day start her up 3-5mins later it sounded like a few injectors just dropped and major lack of power like barley enough to pull itself had to pop it in low and build boost to get it to move off a slight incline. Ran codes low circuit to 1,4,6,7 injectors popped up.

Changed ficm harness which I bought from DTPD nothing changed whiched also ruled the x3 connection being bad.

Next I replaced the ficm half shell which I believe contained the drivers for the injectors. Voltage prior to change 46.5-48 koeo as well as startup.after change 48-49v Again nothing changed.

Batteries changed bout 8months ago with interstate, new alternator 1yr ago. Egr delete. NO TUNES. That's why I have a BBC 496 for. BPD oil cooler.

rather than throw more money at the problem I actually would like to know if ficm or injectors are at fault here. I find it odd 4injectors would go bad at once and it being 1,4,6,7 at that.

Would appreciate the help and knowledge from any of you 6.0l gurus. out there. Thanx
 
#2 ·
Also wanted to add it's been sitting for roughly 2months while I tried to figure out the problem.

It takes a long while to get it started and if it does it kind of slowly goes in to it. Max rpm I can get it at idle is roughly 3000rpm. And it's bucking and missing most of the way there. Sounds as it's missing 4injectors and the power output greatly reflects it. Compression is good not at all worried there. New icp & IPR they all checkout. rotella t6 bout 600miles ago and all maintenance done regularly. Again any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
#3 ·
Having a dilemma here. One day "Early 04" 6.0l is running fine. Next morning starts up quick as usual few minutes into warming up. If I remember correctly it bucks and makes a " tack tack tack tack" sound. I instantly check cts edge for codes and it pulls low circuit on 1,4,6,7 injectors. It lacked major power as if it were really running off only 4cylinders literally had to pop it in low build boost to move it off a very slight incline.

There is NO TUNES stock since day one.

Rotella t6 every 2500 miles.

Motorcraft filters all around

Blue spring upgrade

Egr delete

6months ago got new interstate batteries. Previous batteries were Walmart garbage.

Also prior to this problem ficm voltage was reading 46-47 koeo and same during startup. It takes a long time to get it started when it does start it sounds a lot quieter than it suppose to again like its only running on 4injectors and still no power at all barley enough to pull itself. I've replaced the ficm/injector wire harness and the power side of the ficm I guess it's called with a dorman circuit board that's has the four pins now I get 48-49 volts but still no change.

I'm stuck here and need HELP I can't afford to keep throwing money at it and my truck has been sitting for couple months now.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
#4 · (Edited)
I seriously doubt that you lost four injectors. ...especially since those exact four injectors are fed by the same connector on the FICM harness.

Check your FICM connectors with an emphasis on X1. It is the outer small connector. You can see it on the cover of this document.

https://swampsdiesel.com/files/Fordficm.pdf

If the connections are fine, it may be a FICM power board issue. We'll see.

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Edited to add...

I'll add here that - IIRC - one of the downsides of 4-pin FICMs is that they can't differentiate in a code sense a short to ground of any one injector in a bank of four. As such, in addition to checking the FICM connectors, you would do well to check along the FICM harness for chafing.

http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/6-0-motor-problems/1096562-6-0-harness-chafing.html

Second point... I just noticed that this is my 4000th post. Wow. ...and only 8 million more and I'll be up with @ZMANN... Dare to dream...
 
#6 ·
I would agree with the others that your x1 connector is probably loose. They are plastic and sit right near a hot exhaust manifold so can become brittle over time. Be careful with them to avoid breaking the keeper tabs that keep them seated to the FICM. Also wanted to mention that you can very likely double your oil change interval to 5k miles. Not sure why you are changing at 2500 miles.
 
#8 ·
^this little gem is why Scott has eleventy billion posts. Never mind that he didn't offer any help to the OP about his FICM issue. :poke
 
#10 ·
He just got one more post out of that. We got played.
 
#12 ·
Thanks man I greatly appreciate it and I just had a mechanic buddy stopped by we opened the pick them up and can't find any visible microscopic wires or grounds that are severed and check the voltage is staying 47 so I'm still going to send it off because I don't know where to go from here. It freaking sucks not knowing what the **** could have happened
 
#18 ·
Don't rule out a harness issue. Sometimes the connectors (from heat) break at the connector lock and the plugs do not stay seated. We know all about that on the forums and there are several ways to deal with it of that is what you encounter.

With your codes: C1388A (X-1) Connector: Injector Control, Cyl. 1,4,6,7 (end plug, nearest the firewall).

The 48V test is a good test for the Power Board, but does not test the logic board in any way. The FICM consists of a power board and a logic board. Earlier I posted the ONLY two companies that I know of that test the logic board. Even if it DID pass the buzz test on all injectors, the buzz test simply does not COMPLETELY test the logic board.

Having access to a known good FICM is the best answer IMO. Most people do not have that option.

I bet a known good FICM will fix you up. Then you can get your FICM repaired at either of the two companies mentioned previously. The repair includes needed internal upgrades. Better tan buying another FICM from ANYWHERE.

As an FYI - the CTS3 is VERY nice for monitoring most PIDs, but a few it doesn't get correctly (not really applicable with your issue now though), AND it is not the most thorough code reader. The SCT is worse at both. If you really get into a pronem that is difficult, ForScan is best and only about $40. Just a thing to remember if needed in the future.