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2015 F250 Engine Shudder/Power loss

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#1 ·
I've got a 2015 F250 with 12,000 miles. Built in Kentucky in May 2014.
At around 9,000 miles I got a loud repetitive knocking from what seems to be coming from top side of motor, and instant and significant loss of power.
It is intermittent (few times a week), and generally occurs with gentle throttle while in 6th gear (it's an automatic) when traveling around 45mph.
I've taken it in to Ford Dealership and they said they have not heard of the issue, nor could duplicate it while driving. They sent me home in it and said to bring it back when it gets worse. After reading numerous posts I realize this is not a one off issue. Has anyone had luck having a dealership install a data logger to cut through the red tape? After spending $60K on this truck I am beyond frustrated. Thanks for any feedback in advance.
 
#2 · (Edited)
I had the data logger installed to capture the issue and nothing ever came of it. My issue started at the 3 month mark at 4100 miles and my truck was built in May 2014 as yours was.

The regional customer service manager in Dearborn then told me 'we only had the dealer to put it on because you asked for it.

Then wanted to tear down a new engine and replace the valves

If you need more information, feel free to send me a private message and I will be glad to talk with you about my experience with the issue over the phone.
 
#3 ·
I am having same issue on a 2015 F250. Started at about 2500 miles and seems to increase the more miles I drive. It occurs every 200 miles or so now and when It shifts up to 5th gear at 1000 to 1300 RPM starts rattling, clicking and violently shaking until I down shift or increase RPM. Does it in 6th gear also and fuel economy drops off the cliff. Ford service doesn't know what I am talking about.
 
#4 ·
I have a 2015 F250 Powerstroke doing the exact same thing, Mine showed up at 5k miles just after the first service, just brought to the dealer and they said this was normal, I have it on video, this is not normal. Still at the dealer, I showed them the video and they are researching. I thought it was something they did during the service but now not sure.
Does anyone have any info on this! This is my second Ford Diesel, never had an issue before.
 
#8 ·
2015 F-250 Shudder

I'm having the same problem with shuddering and a loud engine ping. Second time I've taken it to the dealership to diagnose the problem. Finally after 3 days they told that the PCM needs to be re-flashed...the only problem is Ford won't have the re-flash until March 2016. Has any one else been told this?
 
#9 ·
I have a 2008 F250 with 125,000 miles and started experiencing the "shuttering" a month ago. I lost power above 64 mph and truck seemed to be shifting abnormally. Cruise control also stopped working. Took it to the dealer and they said they found a loose cable and I was back on the road. A month later same problem occurred. Took it back to the same dealer and this time it was the solenoid attached to the 4x4. When I picked up the truck the check engine light was still on. I walked back in to show them. They took the truck back and came out telling me I needed a new high pressure fuel pump for a tune of $4300.
 
#10 ·
Mine is a the dealership in Richardson Tx. Just received a call from the service department. The have been in contact with Michigan and it sounds like the fix is coming in first quarter of 2016. The also said the may change a sensor out. That is all fine and good in order to stop the problem from happening again, BUT the million dollar question is how much damage has the engine sustained during the condition. The extreme knocking that the engine makes has to be doing damage to the motor. No one at Ford wants the address that question up to this point. I will keep you posted with my dealing with this matter.
 
#11 ·
I have been experiencing the same problem on my 2013 F250, straight stock. It began last year in the summer, however, it is extremely random. It might happen twice in a week and not again for a month. It is not necessarily happening around regen, but it has several times. I had also noticed some rough shifting between 2nd and 3rd gear at very low speeds. I took it in three times last fall and the first time they said it was fuel filter and changed it. Happened on the way home from the dealer the same day. Took it to a different dealer and they did a PCM flash, said they had encountered this before. I was unsure and I thought it was related to heat and regen issues, so I tried to stay out of it for the winter months because I was still within lemon law and warranty. I got back in around May and had no issues until a few weeks ago and then it happened four times in two weeks. Happens during light throttle sometimes going up an incline but not always. Sent Ford a demand letter under GA's lemon law and they got a Ford Engineer involved. The Engineer contacted me and said based on my service records thought it was the torque converter. They changed that out last week and did some more PCM programming. I picked it up last Friday, and it is way to early to be certain, but I can tell you the transmission shifts much smoother. I haven't experienced the problem yet; I will keep you guys posted. Allen
 
#13 ·
I'm having the same issue with my 2015 F350. All I can say is document....document....document the problem. Dates, Times, Mileage. Ford has given me a free 5 year 75K warranty. I have also contacted the BBB to help with a claim since Ford wouldn't buy back my truck. It's easy. You will need any document you have and emails to and from Ford. It's free. I haven't heard anything back yet. I also call and email my Ford's regional service advisor almost daily. Leah West 866-6313788 x 77788 & her supervisor Len Hendricks 321-435-1206. Ford thinks we are all idiots. Telling me all theses issues are not related. Feel free to also contact them. The more the better!!!!
 
#19 ·
Seems to be alot of "one post" members, no follow ups? It's not limited to this forum either.
 
#18 ·
6.7 motor problems Shuddering

I have a 2015 F250 6.7 and its doing the same thing at 2200 miles. been in and out of dealer they are stumped. Time to start the social media campaign. seems the only thing Ford will respond to is a lot of negative feed back about their flag ship truck.

I had a 2012 never had an issue. traded it 2200 miles ago and wow! WTF. it has to be something they changed from 2012 to now?

I agree who's going pay for the damage to the valves and internals being destroyed in the meantime!
 
#23 ·
There is a TSB for this problem! It is for 2015 - 2016 6.7. Apparently they came up with a bright idea to only pump extra fuel thru the left head during Exhaust Filter Regen. It builds up residue around the exhaust valves. The TSB 15-0124 is to pull the head and replace all eight exhaust valves. Mine is in for this right now. They also re-flash the computer to go back to the old way of using both banks for regen like they did on the 11-14 6.7 Super Duty.
 
#24 ·
Thanks for the post. What is the exact TSD number to reflash the PCM?

I will stand gladly corrected if I am wrong but I don't think Ford has ever on 2008-2014s used all 8 cylinders to inject extra fuel into the exhaust stroke. It is only the left cylinder bank.

Could you share the source of your information? Your dealer?
 
#26 ·
HI, no, the left side has only ever been used.
Atomized fuel is sprayed in during the exhaust stroke. It hits the hot out going air and it combusts instantly.
Fuel dies not pool anowhere.
The valve cleaning/replacement campaign never netted results because the root cause was valve stem to guide clearances.
A new left head must be fitted. The tech must first remove those springs first to confirm the new head has sufficient clearances or the tech might just be putting on another head that has the same problem. If that happens the condition and truck will return.

Very disturbing a dealer told you what they did.
 
#32 ·
engine shudder/jackhammer regen cycle issues

I have got the same issues that a lot of you are describing. went to dealer several times all to no avail. Got my attorney to write some letters and only then did they take me seriously.

Do yourselves a favor and contact your attorney. I am very please with mine here is PA. Mike Donovan and Noah Axler.(610-647-6067) They specialize in automotive cases and really got Ford to listen.

Jim In Pa
 
#33 ·
I have got the same issues that a lot of you are describing. went to dealer several times all to no avail. Got my attorney to write some letters and only then did they take me seriously.

Do yourselves a favor and contact your attorney. I am very please with mine here is PA. Mike Donovan and Noah Axler.(610-647-6067) They specialize in automotive cases and really got Ford to listen.

Jim In Pa
So they fixed your truck?...what did they discover?
 
#35 ·
There is no fix that's why I had to get an attorney. the dealer just kept burying me in denials. my attorney had me write a letter stating that I rescind my acceptance of the vehicle due to non conformity ect. within 3 days a rep from corporate met me at the same dealer that was blowing me off and disclosed that Ford is well aware of the problem and had a "fix" coming in March. He also told me they will not be making public notice to all of us owners but rather we will have to keep inquiring at the dealer.

Ford knows its a huge problem. They are trying to keep quite and hope we either trade or sell and claim non conformity to a warranty and deny any damage was ever caused by this defect.


Get a lawyer because these trucks will not be worth what we owe on them once it becomes more public than already is.
 
#36 ·
There is no fix that's why I had to get an attorney. the dealer just kept burying me in denials. my attorney had me write a letter stating that I rescind my acceptance of the vehicle due to non conformity ect. within 3 days a rep from corporate met me at the same dealer that was blowing me off and disclosed that Ford is well aware of the problem and had a "fix" coming in March. He also told me they will not be making public notice to all of us owners but rather we will have to keep inquiring at the dealer.

Ford knows its a huge problem. They are trying to keep quite and hope we either trade or sell and claim non conformity to a warranty and deny any damage was ever caused by this defect.


Get a lawyer because these trucks will not be worth what we owe on them once it becomes more public than already is.[/QUOTE

Im not trying to be a dik...but how did that lawyer help you?
You got the same line that others have got....(without a lawyer)
I thought you were going to say that the lawyer did some legal jujitsu and made them buy your truck back
Lawyer or not....you are no better off than before....or am I missing something?...IE...what did that lawyer do for you to help you sleep better at night?
 
#41 ·
Is there a set mileage that triggers a regen or is it random? Mine did it with 75 miles on it and did it again today around 550. The dealer told me it regens for 18 miles but I normally don't drive 18 miles at a time! Threads like this are putting the last nail in the coffin for my DPF to be honest. Seems like more BS than it's worth. Just traded a 37000 mile raptor for a $65k 250 and I find problems like this. Kinda pissed off...
 
#42 ·
Still would bet a large sum of money that EPA/CARB red tape is holding up the reflash :look: They aren't even letting VW try and fix their diesels, you think Ford is going to take ANY chance that a reflash to fix a very small number of trucks could give them a run in with the same issues? I have said it before and I will say it again, it sucks that your truck isn't running as it should. Ford knows its an issue and has said they are going to fix it. If the reflash does not solve the problem when it comes out THEN you should be seeking legal action or a buy back. But at least in the short term it doesn't seem to be causing any mechanical damage, it may in the future and I would definitely demand an extended warranty if I were one of you. But, as of right now throwing a temper tantrum and screaming at the top of your lungs isn't going to solve anything. It just makes you look like a cry baby.

Lets use a little logic and brain power here people, Ford doesn't want a repeat of the 6.0 and 6.4 debacle... This time its the EPA/CARB monkeys that have tied their hands behind their backs. And if this becomes a legal issue the EPA may look into it and find that for some reason there are elevated emissions when the symptoms occur and slap more fines on Ford. Then we will have to wait even longer for any kind of fix or solution to all problems on the motor...

I am not saying ignore it or don't ask for a fix, I am saying let Ford make good on their promise... They have even given us a time frame, that's a hell of a lot more than they gave us for the 6.0 or 6.4...