I'm pretty sure there was the Tow Boss package F350 DRW Pick Up trucks that came on a few years...2004-2006???....That wide track front axle was the start of the whole thing.

 

Add: That Dana Super 60 only came with 4.30 gears....pretty easy to figure out if you got the right axle.

 

Nope that is wrong. 3.73, 4.10 and 4.30 were all available on the F350. Even though 4.30 was by far and away the most common and the only ratio available in the F450 Pickup.
And the wide track axle started in 05 with the F450/F550 cab n chassis

I would love to see some 04-06 F350 wide tracks, it would open up a bigger window to find one

 

Well I'm not as wrong as you might think since your thinking of gears first, not the whole Tow Boss package.

Ford for 2006 MY applied the "wide trac" front axle (Dana Super 60) to the Super Duty Pickup trucks. It was applied under the "TOW BOSS" package ONLY for the 6.0L F350 DRW trucks with an automatic transmission.

Yes, you might get 3.73, 4.10 or 4.30 gears using the 6.0L, 5.4L, or 6.8L motors and other transmissions. But you would not have the Dana Super 60 front axle...which is/was the "wide trac".

Hence if you found a 2006-ish DRW 6.0L Pickup with automatic transmission you MIGHT find a front axle with 4.30 gears. I want to say the rear axle for that TOW BOSS package truck would have a "finned" aluminum rear diff cover. That's also part of the "TOW BOSS" package. SO finding the 2006 DRW F350 with a rear axle having a finned rear diff cover along with a gear tag, your chances of the front axle being the DANA Super 60 "wide trac" are better than not knowing what to look for.
I do think that these years the DRW trucks were still 8x170mm spacing compared to the newer 8x200mm(SEE EDIT). SO unless you need a newer DRW rear axle as well you would need two different wheels.

I'm providing you info based on YOUR desires to not speak about the C&C trucks. You never mention what 1995 truck you are using.....that's unclear.

Considering you want this for an older truck, widening the potential sources of your front axle is helping.

EDIT: My bad...the bolt pattern was 8x200mm for these years. I guess they changed that from the leaf spring trucks.

 

Well I'm not as wrong as you might think since your thinking of gears first, not the whole Tow Boss package.

Ford for 2006 MY applied the "wide trac" front axle (Dana Super 60) to the Super Duty Pickup trucks. It was applied under the "TOW BOSS" package ONLY for the 6.0L F350 DRW trucks with an automatic transmission.

Yes, you might get 3.73, 4.10 or 4.30 gears using the 6.0L, 5.4L, or 6.8L motors and other transmissions. But you would not have the Dana Super 60 front axle...which is/was the "wide trac".

Hence if you found a 2006-ish DRW 6.0L Pickup with automatic transmission you MIGHT find a front axle with 4.30 gears. I want to say the rear axle for that TOW BOSS package truck would have a "finned" aluminum rear diff cover. That's also part of the "TOW BOSS" package. SO finding the 2006 DRW F350 with a rear axle having a finned rear diff cover along with a gear tag, your chances of the front axle being the DANA Super 60 "wide trac" are better than not knowing what to look for.
I do think that these years the DRW trucks were still 8x170mm spacing compared to the newer 8x200mm(SEE EDIT). SO unless you need a newer DRW rear axle as well you would need two different wheels.

I'm providing you info based on YOUR desires to not speak about the C&C trucks. You never mention what 1995 truck you are using.....that's unclear.

Considering you want this for an older truck, widening the potential sources of your front axle is helping.

EDIT: My bad...the bolt pattern was 8x200mm for these years. I guess they changed that from the leaf spring trucks.

In 2006 the F350 nor F450 pickup came with the widetrack axle, so it is a moot point. The wide track "super" 60 did not start till 2005 and ONLY came in f450/550 cab n chassis trucks. I am looking for the widetrack axle that has 17" wheels. Just because it had 4.30s doesnt mean it got the widetrack

Also I am putting the axle into my 95 F-superduty, Like I stated earlier

 

Not to mention looking at the door sticker could give you a higher GVWR rating along with the gears/Limited slip installed.
Under Axle with the Tow Boss package I would think it would read 4L for 4.30 gears limited slip.

 

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, PLEASE DONT COMMENT

Nope that is wrong.

haha, for those of you who miss "the old PS.org" come on in and hang out.

Good luck on this one Brad, it will be a fantastic build when it comes together.

 

haha, for those of you who miss "the old PS.org" come on in and hang out.

Good luck on this one Brad, it will be a fantastic build when it comes together.

Thank you

 

Whats up Brad ?

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, PLEASE DONT COMMENT

unlike some forums we usually let everyone in to discuss a topic

Heavy Calling the sidetrack a super60 is a can of worms also because the designation was also used to describe to 05 up dana s60
I think the easiest way will be to get the knuckle info or u joint number since they are all bigger on the widetrac/fatboy axle
I used to have some images ,, I will dig around

 

I called it as described by Ford in their materials.

As described in the 2014 F-Series Super Duty Specs on the FORD Body Builders Advisory Service:

Since the 2014 F450 Pickup is the only pickup truck that has this "wide trac" axle....It's clearly identified as Monobeam Dana Super 60 as standard equipment for the front axle on 4wd F450 Pickups.

PG 82.

https://madocumentupload.marketingassociates.com/api/Document/GetFile?v1=4309789&v2=053118020732&v3=60&v4=6cabadf32d4dbe252bbb832c22e4b6093172e91037296aa6257947d7&v5=False

 

2016 DRW F450 will be the only truck that has the "wide trac" knuckles for sure.

Now I'd have to double check the Order Guides but I don't recall Ford putting a "wide trac" axle as an option for the DRW F350 trucks.

With all the old history with this "wide trac" axle on the pickups it's been interesting how Ford handled it. I want to say at first it was only F350 DRW trucks could get the Tow Boss package. Then with the body change in 2008-2010 Ford came out with the F450 as a pickup as well.....Ford dropped the F350 DRW "wide trac" while putting it on the F450 DRW pick ups. It's been that way ever since if I recall correctly.

 

I have a 2016 F350 DRW with the Dana Super 60 “Wide Track” Tow Boss axel. Yes they made them in 2016

 

Listed as a 2006 F350: Rear axle listed as 4L, but the GVWR is 13,000lbs

Another 2006: Rear axle as 4N, but has the same GVWR 13,000lbs

A 2007 : Rear axle as 4N with GVWR as 13,000lbs as well.

I would have suspected the Tow Boss package would have increased the GVWR, but maybe it only bumped the GCWR.

 

Wide Track axle: 2015-2016 DRW F350 trucks require the Trailer Tow Package- High Capacity (535): includes 4.30 gears Limited Slip // Diesel Motor // 172" (8'box) //

 

Some more info..
1-9/16" tie rods(measuring the threaded part)
a regular 60 is 1-3/8"

 

'05+ Ford Super Duty Dana 60 Axle Tech & Info

I'd like this thread to become the '05+ axle bible for tech and info. Since this is the next big project on my FSB... nOOB question: What do I need in order to swap a complete brake set up from an F-350 onto an F-550 axle? The 05+ F450/550 axles are wider but according to the below...

irate4x4.com

 

2016 F350 with wide track for sale in VA:

Autotrader - page unavailable

 

For sale in NC:

Autotrader - page unavailable

2016 F350 Window sticker shows 4.30 gears and High Capacity Trailer Tow options:

4.30 gears trending for these "wide track" axles....higher front flare that extends to the edge of the front headlight as well as up higher on the fender, also a small stubby wing flare added to the front bumper....pretty easy to start identifying just by walking up to the truck.

 

2016 F-350 : Used 2016 Ford F-350 For Sale | Elko NV. Stock #:23979A

Window Sticker:

https://www.gallagherford.com/api/legacy/pse/windowsticker/ford?vin=1FT8W3DT0GEC83309&dealerCode=08369&postalCode=89801&status=USED

 

2008-2010 F350 DRW XL-Lariat trucks seem to be a bit more hidden not as easy to spot from the info.
2008 calls out 172" WB....
2010 F350 DRW removed the "wide track" axle option 67W. Moved to standard axle on F450 DRW.
The truck would need to be a solid color ( no two-tone lower paint) 6.4L diesel motor 4wd with black molded running boards.
Axles for these years could be 3.73, 4.10LS, and 4.30LS.

That sounds like a much broader description yet only two years of body style to worry about looking thru. Still alot of trucks to dig thru to find those axles.

 

the 6.4 towboss has the flares and winglets also http://pa.motorwebs.com/ford/pdf/towing-guide/08.pdf

but really OP is just looking to identify an axle with no truck so I think the knuckle image is the easiest

 

Yep....and that's a pretty tight stove pipe to be in. Figured showing the trucks could help with a salvage yard find.

 

you found a ton of info
I have been down this rabbit hole a few times , but that was a computer ago lol

 

Thank you for the knuckle size, that is helpful EDIT::::::::: with the PICKUP wide track axle, it has the same size 05+ knuckle height. Not sure about the 45 vs 35* but I'm thinking it uses the same 45* because of how much harder it turns
I already know what a widetrack front truck looks like. The fender flares are a Dead giveaway. ALL the widetracks came with front flares to cover the 7" wider axle

 

Wondering you found out
Id like to know about it. You found Wide trac axle in f350 has not bigger knuckle like f450 But may have bigger u joint.. dose this f350 wide axle have sharp steering radius like f450?
Actually i am looking for axle for tight radius

 

Well, I picked up an axle this week out of a wrecked truck.

Very interesting info...
upper ball joint to upper ball joint is 59" The same as a F450/f550 axle(SRW and regular dually is 54")
NOW.. The knuckle is only 10.75" like the SRW and standard 05+ dually trucks

 

Interesting thx
I always thought / heard the widetrac uses a larger u joint and has bigger knuckles than the non widetrac to archive the sharper turning radius

 

Interesting thx
I always thought / heard the widetrac uses a larger u joint and has bigger knuckles than the non widetrac to archive the sharper turning radius

I would of though the same thing, but apparently not. Maybe the u-joints are bigger, I have not dug in that far

 

from Colo-Duty on the Army (old thread )

this may clear some stuff up ?

The '05-'07 TowBoss had the standard D60 front axle with 8x200mm pattern.
The '08-'10 F350 'Fatboys' and the '11+ F450 Pickups have the wider D60 that I am looking to put in. The knuckles are 45* vise the standard 35*, which allows for the tighter turning radius.

The '08-'10 F450 Pickups have the heavier axles and the 10 bolt pattern. Just like all the F450 and F550 C&C trucks.

 

from Colo-Duty on the Army (old thread )

this may clear some stuff up ?

Yeah, I already knew that and the 15/16 f350 tow boss also has the widetrack(fat boy)
Wish I still had my 06 F550 axles to compare the knuckles first hand

REAL QUICK measurement on the axle u-joints 5" outside measurement and 1-3/8" cap diameter
The "standard" F350 dually axle measures 4-3/4" onside measurement and 1-3/8" cap diameter


From what it looks like(no confirmation), the pickup widetrack(fatboy) axle is hybrid of a 05+ F450/F550 axle but with different inner knuckles and outers

 

Just got my second Wide track(fatboy) super60 8 lug axle today

 

Quick update. Simplest way to ID a wide track vs non wide track.
Wide track coil bucket mounts are NOT attached to the knuckle, while a non wide track are attached. And then to tell the wide track w 17” wheels is the 8 on 200mm bolt pattern