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Using the turbo pedestal itself as an engine lifting bracket

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#1 ·
Hi all. I have been looking a lot for an engine lifting bracket because this time I am going to take the entire engine out and work on it. I don't want to have to buy an engine lifting plate/bracket if I can get away with using what I have. Besides cash is on the low side these days.

So, quick question: Can I use the turbo pedestal itself as a lifting plate / bracket where I can attach my engine lift to? Is it strong enough to hold the engine safely?

Seems to me like a quick solution and, visually speaking it looks tough enough.

If not, do you all know where I can rent one? Ideally near me here in Orlando, FL.

Thanks in advance folks.
 
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Thanks. I did come across this and various other threads about making a plate or buying one but nothing about using the turbo bracket as a lifting anchor.
 
#5 ·
i wouldn't even try lifting a diesel for a second with the 10mm bolts and cast bracket and that far back from where i think cog is . Specially with the cast heads on

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Thank you. Time for plan B and fab a bracket.
Unless anyone has one I can rent. Anyone?
 
#6 ·
Using the bracket ... we have no idea what the casting alloy was. While the bolts can handle it, not sure about the bracket.
 
#8 · (Edited)
Just old, exposed to a lot of stuff. There are others here with more knowledge.

Unfortunately, I use my bracket fairly often to move the engine stand and block out of the way in the garage when I have to work on necessary items. And I never went into production for selling the welded brackets on eBay; it didn't seem worth it. And I didn't know what to charge.

I could send you the aluminum bars I used to pull the motor out of the frame, but right now, the eyebolt is down at my farm, and during the winter, I go there sparsely, depending on your timing.
 
#10 ·
You could talk to some shops. Many will say no because you're asking to barrow equipment they use to make money but some haven't used the diesel one in years and maybe you can "Rent" from them so you and they get something out of the deal etc. I've done it. I wont lie i didn't secure the tool I needed until the 5th shop but it worked nonetheless lol.
 
#12 ·
No plans - but let me ask the question.

What would someone be willing to pay on eBay for this?
What would someone be willing to pay to rent one?

I already have people asking me if I'd make up the EGR cooler blocking kits.

 
#19 ·
No plans - but let me ask the question.

What would someone be willing to pay on eBay for this?
What would someone be willing to pay to rent one?

I already have people asking me if I'd make up the EGR cooler blocking kits.
I would be willing to pay $75 for one. Thankfully, Rc31080 is able to let me borrow his and is not that far. Thanks again.
 
#13 ·
i like that bracket you did that hard part and figured the eye lifting point offset

once someone sees that it is really easy to replicate
if you were selling them I would say 75 and 15 ship would get a decent market but then they would turn around and resell since most folks pull them once

my 2 cents on that
 
#15 · (Edited)
It's what I would do, too, ZMANN.

I know the guy that made the ones before was asking $200 for his. When I made mine up, I was thinking in the $60-75 range, maybe with shipping. I never timed out the man-hours for drilling, cutting, welding, painting.

I have to go punch out some of the plates I made for the EGR blocking, so I can answer the people who have asked. I had in the video how to make it and where to buy the welsh plugs for the other end, and still, I get asked.

I was thinking about doing the double engine stand brackets to fit the sides of the 6.0, too. Not like I have spare time......

 
#21 · (Edited)
Through YouTube, I've sold more 6.0 lifting brackets (that have to be welded) in the period of four months than I thought I would in a year. I would think some would end up on eBay when people are done. Unfortunately, I cannot discuss details on the open forum (non-vendor rules), through YT, or in a conversation here before ZMANN starts looking for his old skateboard.

These sales are telling me that many 6.0s are having the engines reworked. Not so much a statement of the 6.0 being problematic, but a statement about the current state of affairs of people wanting to keep the older trucks alive and operational, where before they would sell a rolling chassis.
 
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#26 · (Edited)
Cool. Helping each other is what community is about.
 
#28 · (Edited)
Thanks. I'm in a place where I can do this. There are many others that also could but maybe don't have the time or resources. There are times I wish I had more experience with the 6.0Ls, but it is a solitude of one.

I haven't really done any videos this year. I have a computer issue where my assembly of the heads videos has been compromised, and I am one of those lucky ones who has long Covid. I can't breathe through my nose, have lung issues, and my voice is 3x worse than before. It doesn't look like I will have surgery until next January. Doctors are backed up.

I'm about ready to go computer voice for narration.
 
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Deleted, I was yammering.
 
#32 ·
Prolly bought one of @TooManyToys brackets -- Jack has a couple of options that are very nice lift brackets -- there is a thread here discussing the brackets and different options
 
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#34 ·
He came back for a wiring diagram so he was at least alive.

 
#35 ·
Hmm, so I shouldn't have lifted the engine off the turbo pedestal, with only one bolt, with a junk harbor freight chain, with the hook only partly through a link?

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The 6.4 pedestal seems a bit more beefy, but this was still a very precarious position. Surprising that it did not fail there. I did most of my lifting and moving using two bolts and a better chain, especially after dumping so many money's down the oil fill tube when it was complete. Although when it came time to coax it over the k-member fully dressed you can bet it was back to single chain single bolt.
 
#36 ·
One 8mm 10.9 grade bolt can lift over 1,000 lbs in tension. The issue you can get into is side-loading the bolt, which will significantly reduce the lifting ability.

The issue is with the 6.0L bracket, possibly distorting it when lifting. It's not cast in design or probably an alloy chosen for lifting; someone may distort it.

I pulled my engine out using aluminum extrusion, which would freak out many people. Often, it is not an issue of what you can get away with but an issue of safety comfort. Or potential for messing something up.
 
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