free tires for that review ?

 

Born from the story telling experts at the VerticalScope media company, Geared Content Studios knows how to craft unique ideas that will resonate with our audience of influencers. We do it creatively, understanding the importance of stunning visuals and a compelling narrative.

"Story telling experts" who cannot clear their throats, nor turn their camera sideways.

He also said 2020, but they uploaded the vid today.

No one cares about initial reviews, talk to me at 40k.

 

Won't lie I can make a nice legitimate review for some free tires. Im looking at new tires this fall anyways....

 

yea man, being an influencer is a real thing.

You can literally make a career of it.

 

yea man, being an influencer is a real thing.

You can literally make a career of it.

hahaha as much as I hate "Influencer" if i could get a set of decent tires for a few hours of video editing and talking i'd take it lol. I feel the whole influencer thing is crazy... though. Plus im not a skinny girl with a decent face so its gonna be hard for that bearded guy from up north to compete.

 

you are thinking about it wrong, I follow people in my trade who share tips/tricks and they tell me about the best products because they've tested them.
That is a working influencer, they have a day job, AND invest in making content.

 

I did the "influencer" thing for about 3 years in the IT/Computing space. 20+ hours/week in scripting, shooting, and editing a single video each week on top of a 9-5 job and I only ever ended up getting about $50/mo at my peak and didnt have enough reach to score anything from manufacturers (only about 5k subscribers). I did make some good contacts in the FOSS community and was able to jump from a $70k/yr dev job to a $100k/yr admin job based on my "portfolio". That was the real payoff.

 

Agreed. I think of people like RdonDieselTech, his videos weren't flashy but man they saved me and many others thousands of dollars in beer, parts, and headache meds lol.He was ahead of his time and God rest his soul could have been an awesome "Influencer'.

 

I have been through 3 sets of these on a 2016 F250 6.7l. They were original equipment. only got about 32k miles out of each set. When tread life is about 2/3rds gone, wet pavement is a nightmare. I finally changed to another brand.

 

So you’ve driven 96k miles on a tire that was released about a year and half ago? And, they were standard equipment on your vehicle four years before they were released to the public? 🤔🤔🤔

 

Not a review IMHO. Talk to me about performance in mud, ice, snow, wet conditions, pavement driving. How about highway noise? How do they handle towing? a load in the bed? wear after 10K, 20K or 40K miles?

 

HWY noise is elevated over what was stock for the truck. Not unexpected for an aftermarket AT tire, not the loudest either. I've use "louder" AT tires then these (cough cough) Nitto EXOs. So compared to Nitto EXOs the AT IIIs are MUCH more quiet, compared to the OEM tires the AT IIIs are louder. Too subjective for all but your ears could be "sensitive". Maybe you just need to take a ride with me before you buy?

Wet conditions they can tend to slip if you punch it hard enough. Most significant incidents are when taking off from a Stop sign/light where there is a large white Stop line painted in the road. I've gone thru wet corners a bit faster than normal, giving it a bit more pedal than normal with no significant events. Yes, the tires will slip but then I'm not trying to go sideways either.

Pavement driving the ride is fine with 65PSI in the front and right at 70PSI in the rear. As always the ride quality is dependent on the set PSI as well as vehicle load. I try to rotate the tires with oil changes within 5-7k miles as "most people" would have done. Balancing hasn't been an issue as I have them checked during rotations. Depending on the paved road conditions there's always something to experience. I've hit quite a few different "potholes" with no long lasting ill effects to the tires or the vehicle. Surfaces from concrete/blacktop/bridges/expansion joints....etc etc etc....nothing significant to report. I'll repeat this: PSI has a bigger effect to what or how the tires will respond giving feedback to the driver.

Off-road/dirt/grass conditions you can tear up the surface pretty easy depending on your driving style. If you punch it, they are going to rip it up. Ease into the pedal they will tend to grip and help pull more than slip as the OEM tires will tend to do. There's been plenty of times all I needed to do was use the ELD compared to switching to 4HI in certain conditions. Typical for the type of truck rear end with one tire on the road, one on the grass....the grass will get shredded. You got to get rolling before pulling back onto the roadway. If you stab in the back end grass side tire will shred the surface.

The "worst" thing I can give a report on is when driving on a chipped stone/gravel road. The treads seemed to kick up the chips/stones like a bag of BB's being thrown into the wheel wells. Ping, ping, ping driving down the off roadway area. So I'd consider factor this IF you use a wheel setup that extends the tires/wheels outside the fender lip in any significant way. Previously I installed aftermarket flaps (somewhat extended outside the fender lip) that help with keeping dirt and junk off the side the vehicle. I hated how the dirt/stones/road grime would collect in the window felt on the outside so the flaps were important to me.

Loaded for a vacation the ride "felt" softer as the springs are being worked so it was a better ride overall with 500lbs in the bed. I've loaded plenty of sod/mulch/dirt/household Honey Do list materials as well. No issues.

Towing with either a small enclosed trailer, trailer dolly, or car trailer there was nothing unexpected to note. No gooseneck or 5th wheel use that I can report.

Tire wear report will be coming soon as I need to get them rotated. I'll make sure they write down the current measurements so I can share.

Do not forget that due to the different sizes offered one can select a different tire so your load rating can be different. The tires I selected are in the 4k per tire range "just in case" so they are over the door sticker numbers and rating for the rear axle. Overall there have been NO major issues to address or concerns to date.

 

HWY noise is elevated over what was stock for the truck. Not unexpected for an aftermarket AT tire, not the loudest either. I've use "louder" AT tires then these (cough cough) Nitto EXOs. So compared to Nitto EXOs the AT IIIs are MUCH more quiet, compared to the OEM tires the AT IIIs are louder. Too subjective for all but your ears could be "sensitive". Maybe you just need to take a ride with me before you buy?

Wet conditions they can tend to slip if you punch it hard enough. Most significant incidents are when taking off from a Stop sign/light where there is a large white Stop line painted in the road. I've gone thru wet corners a bit faster than normal, giving it a bit more pedal than normal with no significant events. Yes, the tires will slip but then I'm not trying to go sideways either.

Pavement driving the ride is fine with 65PSI in the front and right at 70PSI in the rear. As always the ride quality is dependent on the set PSI as well as vehicle load. I try to rotate the tires with oil changes within 5-7k miles as "most people" would have done. Balancing hasn't been an issue as I have them checked during rotations. Depending on the paved road conditions there's always something to experience. I've hit quite a few different "potholes" with no long lasting ill effects to the tires or the vehicle. Surfaces from concrete/blacktop/bridges/expansion joints....etc etc etc....nothing significant to report. I'll repeat this: PSI has a bigger effect to what or how the tires will respond giving feedback to the driver.

Off-road/dirt/grass conditions you can tear up the surface pretty easy depending on your driving style. If you punch it, they are going to rip it up. Ease into the pedal they will tend to grip and help pull more than slip as the OEM tires will tend to do. There's been plenty of times all I needed to do was use the ELD compared to switching to 4HI in certain conditions. Typical for the type of truck rear end with one tire on the road, one on the grass....the grass will get shredded. You got to get rolling before pulling back onto the roadway. If you stab in the back end grass side tire will shred the surface.

The "worst" thing I can give a report on is when driving on a chipped stone/gravel road. The treads seemed to kick up the chips/stones like a bag of BB's being thrown into the wheel wells. Ping, ping, ping driving down the off roadway area. So I'd consider factor this IF you use a wheel setup that extends the tires/wheels outside the fender lip in any significant way. Previously I installed aftermarket flaps (somewhat extended outside the fender lip) that help with keeping dirt and junk off the side the vehicle. I hated how the dirt/stones/road grime would collect in the window felt on the outside so the flaps were important to me.

Loaded for a vacation the ride "felt" softer as the springs are being worked so it was a better ride overall with 500lbs in the bed. I've loaded plenty of sod/mulch/dirt/household Honey Do list materials as well. No issues.

Towing with either a small enclosed trailer, trailer dolly, or car trailer there was nothing unexpected to note. No gooseneck or 5th wheel use that I can report.

Tire wear report will be coming soon as I need to get them rotated. I'll make sure they write down the current measurements so I can share.

Do not forget that due to the different sizes offered one can select a different tire so your load rating can be different. The tires I selected are in the 4k per tire range "just in case" so they are over the door sticker numbers and rating for the rear axle. Overall there have been NO major issues to address or concerns to date.

Now THAT is a review! Thank you Sir!

 

 

😁😁

 

As a follow up:
My Nitto Ridge Grapplers were installed at 110,299 miles. They were swapped out at 169,023 miles with a measurement of 5/32 all around by the paperwork, 58,724 miles on them. I will say I did not feel the tires needed to be replaced, I just wanted new tires.


My Toyo AT IIIs are listed to have 16/32" when new by the Toyo site.
When rotated with 6,677 miles the measurements show 14/32" all around.
When rotated with 19,033 miles the measurements show 11/32" at three tires, one tire is 12/32".

While at Discount Tire today to see when my rotation was due they are now using a different device to check the tread depth. Pretty cool little handheld device that must be an optical scanner. As the MGR passed the device over the tire it took a reading. He stated the device reads from side to side of the width of the tire. This gives them a better idea as to how the tires are wearing. Without being able to give me a printout ( no rotation today ) he said at 21,857 miles all tires were in the 10-13/32" range across the treads. There is a way to import that info from the device when they do a work order. So they are able to give the owner's a copy for reference.

With this new device I know the new numbers and old numbers may seem a bit off but in the long run it will even out as far as info to share.

So if I were to take the low range now of 10/32" measurements at 21,857 miles across all tires compared to the as new 16/32" by the site that's not too bad for me. I could go with the higher end, but that's not reasonable with a new tool being used to check the tread depth. Let's see what happens!

 

@HeavyAssault I know it has been a while, but did you have any more thoughts on your Toyo Open Country AT3s?

 

I like them in the big scheme of things. I ended up needing to replace one due to tire damage so I got two new tires. I'd have to double check the current mileage for the oldest set.

I'm not happy with the wet traction while using them. They tend to slip when pulling off from a stop, so you can't just "gun it" that's for sure when it's been raining. Makes me become REALLY careful when raining out on off ramps or on ramps. I'm 99% sure this issue is only related to the 3-Peak Mountain Snowflake (3PMSF) rating. Since these are the second set of tires (previous Nitto EXOs) with the 3PMSF having both exhibited the same wet traction issues.

 

Sorry to jump in here but these were one of the tires I was looking into when I bought tires back in May. I didn’t end up going with them but did go with a set that is three-peak rated and the wet traction is fantastic. I have no slippage taking off hard from a stop when wet or raining.


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What was the brand you choose to go with ??

 

I didn’t post them because I wasn’t here to push one brand over another, just to say it may not be the 3 peak as being the cause of poor wet traction.
But, since you asked I went with the Firestone Destination XT’s.


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As of today:
I'm still running two of the originals I got awhile back. I put them on at 169k miles...now at 222k....their tread measured out at 5/10 and 6/10.
So that's 53k+ miles on the remaining two tires so inclined to get mileage data. Tire pressure checked on the regular as well as tire rotations.
Short the non-repairable damage on one of the originals I would still have a little bit more driving to go if still on the full set. I'll be getting new tires at some point before the end of the year at this point.

I'm sorry the replacements are not going to be Toyo AT III's. I can only say the wet traction is the problem. The new ones will be either Toyo RT or Nitto Ridge Grappler/Recon Grappler.