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Rear diff fill plug won't come out

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#1 ·
I removed the rear diff cover yesterday evening to let it drain overnight. The cover had many inside gouges, dents and two small holes that someone had previously sealed with rtv sealant instead if buying a new cover. Apparently, a gear or two exploded sometime in the past before I bought the truck.

I didn't think to see if I could remove the fill plug before removing the cover. This morning I crawled back under the truck to remove fill plug. Not budging. Took some P.B. Blaster to it and my small O.A. torch to give it some heat. Pulling hard on the breaker bar with a 3/8" extension, she began to move. Or, so I thought. Inside of plug rounded the extension and perhaps the inside of the plug.

I thought the inside of the plug was simply a square - 3/8" ratchet fitting.

Did the previous "mechanic" use something else or does it take a special tool like a wierd torx bit ?

Had the same problem with the 5 speed transmission drain & fill plugs. They ain't coming out.

More heat ? Special removal tool ?

I've never had trouble removing any fill & drain plugs until this truck... Any alternatives to filling diff ?

I'm considering doing a live stream event as I blow this truck to smithereens... just kidding, but it would relieve the frustration and be fun to watch !

Thx for any ideas... Truck is ready to go down the road once I refill the diff...
 
#2 ·
I don’t know about that specific transmission, but some drain and fill plugs are Allen key and not square. Usually heat will break them loose. If not, try heating the surrounding area and then use a squirt bottle to spray the plug itself. That cools and contracts the plug faster than the surrounding metal.
for the diff, I’d just grab a inexpensive aftermarket cover with a fill plug in it. If you weld or know someone, you can weld some flat stock to a new cover and then tap it for 1/2” NPT and put a pipe plug in it. The stock covers are too thin to be tapped. Summit Racing sells pre fab weld in drain bungs if you want to go that route.
 
#4 ·
I have hammered impact rated torx heads into Allen/square fittings to get them out. Sometimes you can re-use but may be good time to scout out local junk yards to see if you can grab some spares. You learned the lesson many of us did. Make sure you can refill before you can drain....

You can always stack a couple of washer and a nut and jbweld/weld it to an equal height part on the rear dif cover. I swore 4wheel parts sold dif covers for like $99 for our trucks with drain and fill ports built in but i have to find the link.
 
#5 ·
It should be a 3/8" square. Someone could put in a hex pipe plug. I've found those to be a 3/8" fitting needing a 1/2" wrenches leverage. Rust can cause the square to be non-receptive, and you don't get full depth on the square. A small screwdriver acting like a chisel and a Dremmel end wire brush may get you some depth to retry if it's square. I never understand why people get randy on a pipe plug. I've got some big ones like that on my dozer, which are needed to come out so I can replace the brake bands.

I've often found the aftermarket rear covers with fill ports overfill the differentials.

The worst-case situation is to drill out the plug, smaller than the smallest taper thread. Then use an air saw to section the remains carefully, and you can punch the segments to the center.
 
#6 ·
G2 Axle and Gear has a rear cover with fill and drain ports for under $150. Check if one is available for your axle. They do have Sterling 10.25/ 10.5 for sure. If the fill plug is too high, just put in the specified amount and don't fill to the plug.
 
#10 ·
I've been using the G2 cover for about 2 years now, it's good quality and holds a bit more oil than stock. There is also a 1/8 NPT port for temperature monitoring if you choose to install. The best part is you never have to muck with the stock gasket or use RTV ever again, it seals with a rubber oring and has it's own drain port too. As for why your fill plug is stuck, somebody else probably hammered down on it. I always check the fill can be loosened prior to draining the fluid, for that very reason you have just experienced.


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#11 ·
I'm ordering a G2 cover. The axle needed new fluid and I just spaced on checking the fill plug first. Fortunately, I don't need the truck for a few days. The cover should be here by then. I'm guessing the plug is pipe thread, so it's easy to over tighten those tapered threads.... Again, Thx for all the info !!!
 
#18 ·
You got a point there. I did notice there was a decent bit of oil in the pit. It was dirty but not horrible. Drain on the cover or not, I always use a Lube Locker gasket. Easy of. Easy on. No RTV goop.
 
#16 ·
It is annoying that the use of a little antisieze & a little past "finger tight" on a fill plug is all that's needed. It's not as if they're going to come loose. Not to mention the over use of road salts and other diabolical rusting agents used on many of our Northern roadways.

I miss the days of studded snow tires... Blizzaks help. However, nothing beats studded tires on ice & chains in snow.

And I don't care about wearing down the highway... The cheap asphalt they use around here only lasts about 5 years before it starts going bad and needs re-done.... Rant over... for now. SMILE !
 
#17 ·
The much is all the iron wear particles. It's down there or on the tone wheel sensor for those trucks that have them. I believe the factory fill plugs have the sealer on the surface, too; they don't have to be that tight. The only time I've found them missing is after a tech has worked on a rear axle and the plug is left sitting on a cart or the back post of the in-ground twin post lift.
 
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#20 ·
Diff plug update. I crawled back under the truck a few days ago. Took a flashlight & a screwdriver to clean out the inside of that stubborn fill plug. 3/8" square. Took the torch to heat up the case. Sprayed some cold water inside the plug. Tapped a new 3/8" impact extension into it. Applied ample pressure to said plug via long breaker bar. Hallelujah ! Eureka ! The plug is turning !!! Oh.... wait ... Nope... Just finished completely stripping it out ... Waiting for the G2 Axle & Gear cover to arrive.

Thx again for all the great info ! 7.3 Boomer
 
#24 ·
Lol. Nice.
I'd do an eyeball test to see, but filling to the upper fill hole in the new cover looks close to factory level. Could just put the specified amount in if you cleaned out the pit and call it good. Helical gears aren't picky. Glad you got it back together!