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P0269 cel running rough

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#1 · (Edited)
Well I got the truck in January and it’s been pretty good with no big issues until now. While at a red light the truck stumbles and then starts running rough with a cloud of white smoke coming from the exhaust. I’m on the side of the road now trying to figure what’s going on. Code reader says cylinder 3 balance p0269. It starts and runs but is sluggish. Head gaskets and egr delete was done by previous owner, no tuner/programmer all stock. Edit: Smoke smells like raw diesel

https://youtu.be/Jrm0gnpXDbE
 
#2 ·
You've likely lost the number 3 injector. Unplug it and see if the smoke stops.
 
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The pic shows the location of #3. the connector is on the upper side of the valve cover. It has a clip that holds it in place. I can't find a decent pic of it in place.

About 3:20 of this video shows you how to unplug it,
 
#7 ·
Yeah, p0267 is still #3 and it's because it's unplugged. If it's still smoking, I'd guess cracked tip. I probably wouldn't drive it much like it is due to the possibility of a hydrolock. It's still going to run rough because you're down one cylinder.
 
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#11 ·
I think you probably caught it in time, but like I said you don't want to keep driving it until you get the injector replaced.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Out of my expertise, but I would think you would have gotten more than just a #3 contribution code if three cylinders were down. Did you have an FICM problem recently? If all three injectors did go it could have washed the cylinders and be part of the compression problem. I think I'd want a static compression test run before I went any further.
@LoxDiesel @toren302 @nighthawk285 Thoughts?
I agree with Dex to a point that if you had compression issues you'd likely see more codes, but there are other things that come up when doing a compression test that need to be known to determine the health of the engine.

Why did they do a compression test in the first place, that's an odd jump? Did they squirt oil in the hole and re-test and if so, did the number change? Was the engine cold (I'm guessing so)? %s are great, but what is/was the PSI? If the majority are around 350-400psi and at worst, cyl. 4 is at 300psi......yeah that's 15%, but 300psi is still fairly decent....it's not optimal, but it's still very runnable. What's the mileage on the truck? Remember, that as you were driving this around with the injector unplugged and during the times you saw white smoke, you weren't just dumping raw fuel out the exhaust....you were getting some in your oil too. Oil thinned out by fuel isn't going to give a fair reading in a compression test IMO.

I wonder if they meant to say that they did a CONTRIBUTION test and the service writer mis-communicated that....? This would be more in-line on diagnosing a downed injector(s) than going right into a compression test. If so......those sways are normal-ish, since the known bad cylinder is going to bring the other ones down a little bit too.

Honestly, if it were me, I would just have the #3 injector swapped out, have an oil change done and be on my merry way. Like you said, you didn't have problems until the injector started acting up. So fix the issue you went there for. Once those are done if you're still worried about it, have another compression test done, or at the least ask to see a picture of the power balance test once the truck is running correctly again.
 
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Out of my expertise, but I would think you would have gotten more than just a #3 contribution code if three cylinders were down. Did you have an FICM problem recently? If all three injectors did go it could have washed the cylinders and be part of the compression problem. I think I'd want a static compression test run before I went any further.
@LoxDiesel @toren302 @nighthawk285 Thoughts?
 
#15 ·
No ficm issues, always at 47.5- 48v And never drops. It’s just weird because I only have this one code and before this the truck ran fine other than long crank when cold. It never skipped when cranking. All of this really sucks because I bought the truck in January of this year, Glow plug control module went out, ac compressor seized and I changed every single part in the ac system due to contamination. Heater stopped working, 4x4 doesn’t work. Fixed the rear sliding window. Just so much 2 weeks before closing on my first house
 
#17 ·
Not 100% why they did a compression test. The note I left with the truck was to troubleshoot injector #3. I’m unsure what type of compression test they did, I called back and left a message so when they call back I’ll be able to ask that question. It has 210,000 miles and I’ve personally only put 3700 of those miles on the truck. It’s worth a shot to just replace that one injector, I guess I’m just waiting on a return phone call from them and I’ll update you guys and make my decision tomorrow.
 
#18 ·
I had assumed earlier that they had done a "relative compression test" using Ford's IDS software since they gave you the numbers in percentages rather than actual PSI values on each cylinder. #3 and #4 fire in succession and #1 is 180° out of that order. So the relative compression test may be swayed as @nighthawk285 mentioned.
 
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#20 ·
Just spoke with the service advisor and she says they can’t just replace the injector. Stating that they don’t do half way work. I was rushed off of the phone and she said the only option with them would be installing a new engine. Didn’t try to answer any of my questions. I told her to have my keys and a summary of all the tests performed ready for when I come and get my truck. She quoted me $18,000 on a replacement engine lol.
 
#21 ·
LOL, some dealerships are just that way.