XRF, and Spicer are good, Moog isn't worth the cost.

 

Thanks for your input.

 

moog tie rod ends failed on mine in 1/2 the miles as my OEM spicer stuff and the Moog was greasable vs greased for life ,, i sucked it up and ordered OEM / spicer to replace the Moog junk, it was more than twice as much but worth it
I was glad I had used spicer ball joints and not moog

 

moog tie rod ends failed on mine in 1/2 the miles as my OEM spicer stuff and the Moog was greasable vs greased for life ,, i sucked it up and ordered OEM / spicer to replace the Moog junk, it was more than twice as much but worth it
I was glad I had used spicer ball joints and not moog

Thanks! Gonna bit the bullet and get oem! I would hate to do the job twice.

 

oh and Amazon and warranty for parts = good luck with that

 

Don't buy vehicle parts on Amazon unless you don't want a warranty, as ZMANN says.

Moog used to be a sister division of the company I worked for, and I used to run some testing for their R&D group. In 2005, they were good quality products, and their team was proud of their products; I talked to their R&D manager occasionally. That went downhill around 2008; Federal-Mogul wiped out a lot of R&D from all the divisions - my 2 test facilities were closed, all employees terminated, not transferred. The same happened at Moog. Icahn was trying to shed costs to split up and sell off divisions, making the profit look good and a good profit for himself. That never happened, but the entire company has been sold to Tenneco.

I'm rambling; it still stings. Moog is not what it used to be, and production has a fair amount of QC issues. I stayed with the product line for a few years but no more. The ball joints in my truck are Moog, have lasted almost as OE had, and still going, but they were a 2008 vintage, just as the R&D manager told me they were starting to see warranty issues from the "new" plants. Maybe Tenneco will restore the company.

For suspension parts, I try to stay with Spicer or Timken (hubs).

 

Thanks for the info! I heard a lot about their products going down hill. Sorry to hear about your experience with moog. I think a lot of their customers need to hear theses stories especially how they treat their employees.

 

I didn't work for Moog; my company was first purchased by Cooper Automotive, which also owned Moog, then Cooper Automotive was sold to Federal-Mogul. Moog, Fel-Pro, Wagner, et al. were co-divisions with us.

The ultimate poke in the eye - I found out my facility was being closed when a real estate agent brought a prospective purchaser to inspect the property. I had an interesting conversation with my director after I showed them around. The worst was after that, telling all the people who worked for me that we were being closed.

The average years in service for my group was 22 years. It was a good group of people, considered the best talent for our part of the automotive industry, a little "skunkworks" group who could take a vehicle and go anywhere across the country to run required tests, from a Civic to Class 8. Good enough, so we had Ford/Chrysler/Honda engineers fly out to visit us.

Being on the east coast, there were no other test tracks or organizations for us to migrate to without pulling up roots, no one did.

Not the way for an international company of 45,000 employees to act.

 

I once rebuild my front end with autozone premium gold crap years back and If Im remembering right i think i found moog stamped on a few of the parts, thought I got lucky til about a year or so, guess I shouldnt have blamed my girlfriend for hitting curbs

 

Retailers like AutoZone buy products private from suppliers and have them private labeled under their brand name. My old company used to do that from when I started with them in the late '70s and had done that for decades prior. It may not be consistent though year to year. They are always looking for better prices even if you sold to them for decades, in the case of NAPA. You can be price shopping in several stores under different brand names, yet they all might be coming from the same manufacturer.

 

OEM all day. With Dynatrac ball joints.

 

I would choose OEM. My Moog went bad after a year or so.