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I'm starting this thread to try to put together information in one place of how to reduce noise in the cab/engine bay of our trucks (soundproofing). While the sound of a diesel is something that most of us like, there's a point where most would like to roll the windows up and have a normal conversation or listen to the radio without it sounding there's a freight train is in the back seat or under the hood. The 7.3 is a noisy beast, but can it be tamed a bit? (I hope)

Any information is appreciated. I don't want this to turn into a product A is better than product B argument, so try to stick with facts regarding DB (decibel) reduction. While I'm not a scientist on this subject, if someone has credentials in this area please state them. Any and all ideas are welcome. I don't have a DB meter so I can't post any actual numbers to quantify my results.

I started by using sound reducing material. I used two 37.5 sq. ft. rolls of this
under the carpet. I'm not convinced that it made a really huge difference overall, though I'm sure it helped. I applied it "triple thickness" in spots on the floorboard especially around the transmission tunnel and toward the firewall. The interior on these trucks is very easy to remove. You can easily have the seats out in 30 minutes and I'm slow. The carpet Ford uses has very good insulation, and is of much better quality compared to the Dodge I previously owned.

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This is where I noticed the biggest difference in sound reduction. While I had the interior out of the truck I had to drive it somewhere so I reinstalled the drivers seat. I couldn't believe the amount of road noise that the truck's interior absorbs. It was like riding in a huge 55 gallon drum. I had to take my wife with me so she laid on the floor (very short trip). She commented on how much noise was coming from the rear wall of the cab, mainly through the cab vents on the back wall. So, I lined it with the Noico Liner, then put some of the Mybecca acoustic soundproofing foam over the vents. Being made of foam rubber, air can still pass through. This really helped quiet things down a lot. I also stuffed some of the Mybecca acoustic foam up under the dash around the steering column and behind the glove box. This made a slightly noticeable difference. I'm looking for the part number for a panel that Ford made for the Excursion. It was a flat plastic panel that closed the opening above your feet and pedals. It has a slot for the brake pedal. They were not available for manual transmissions (clutch pedal arm) but I did modify one once for a 6 speed truck by cutting the slot into it. When I find the part number for it I'll post it.

I have installed two mufflers back to back. While this did make the truck somewhat quieter, it doesn't really sound "that quiet" considering the expense and trouble I went to with doing this. There is still the distinct turbo whistle, which I like (I have a Wicked Wheel 2). I think much of the interior engine noise emanates from the engine bay. I've read an article where a company makes a sound deadening mat kit for the Cummins engine that had great results. It's very expensive, but lowers the sound levels from 85db which is equivalent to heavy traffic noise, to a claimed 60db which is what normal speech sounds like. Oddly, covering the oil pan made the most difference (10db). That's a huge improvement from a place that I wouldn't have thought of. The company doesn't offer a kit for the Powerstroke, only the Cummins. The owner drives an 2009 Cummins, however, I have to say that the Cummins is an inherently easier engine to cover due to its design.

My turbo tubes have the wrap still on them, however, I may consider adding some. Has anyone done this?

I haven't done the doors yet, that's next. There was a thread five years ago where a member stated that he had good results from lining the doors. I'll give it a try soon and post my results, hopefully before the weather turns terribly cold.

Well, that's it for now guys. Any and all comments are welcome.
 
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thanks
I have been wanting to do this and know someone who went all out on this procedure roof liner included ( He might chime in)

I have seen a few write ups and that hush panel mentioned before but can't find the part #

and I removed my cab vents all together the only downside is sometimes a door won't close if i don't give it enough of a push
 
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I took my truck for a drive after covering one of the two cab vents with my wife driving, I wanted to see what (if any) difference it made. It was considerable. When the A/C or heat is running the rubber flaps in the vent are open quite a bit and it's basically like having two 4"x6" holes in the back of the cab. There's a lot of road noise from the back tires right there. I have stock sized tires that are a non aggressive tread, so they aren't as loud as some, so others will benefit more than I did from covering them. The foam covered vent was letting in very little noise compared to the other one, and air movement was still normal.

Unfortunately, I didn't take any pictures of all of this, wish I did. When I do the doors I'll try to take some for this thread. I'll have to learn how to post pics on here.
 
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Hey good thread! Also, I work in the auto field, and from what i have seen with the expensive vehicles is that they insulate,insulate, insulate. The bmw's all have sound insulation under the car, why? Well, I found this out with my 7.3, when i drove my 7.3 in the snow i noticed a significant reduction in noise outside and inside. Take it on the tar, bam noise is back. I think if someone was to make a sound panel under the engine area, i think the noise reduction would be unbelievable especially used with the under hood insulation. When I build up my 7.3, I will be trying this out, and it may protect the engine more from the salty, calcium elements used on the roads here in maine. I am sound deadening my cab also. Just food for thought.
 
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I would think that insulating the engine itself would do the most good in noise reduction, killing it at the source. The article I read about the guy insulating his 5.9 Cummins was interesting. They didn't tell the cost but said it ran about as much as a rebuilt injection pump (~$1000) To me, that's ridiculous.
 
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I'm not surprised the foam mat is what gave you the most sound reduction. I alway laugh at the guys who use the asphalt style sound deadener over 100% of the interior. That mat is to deaden vibration, you only need it on the flat parts of the sheet metal. The foam is what insulates you from road noise. Use the foam behind all carpet and door panels.

My Favorite is Raammat mat and the Ensolite foam. Well priced, too. Mat and Foam Products - RAAMaudio Inc.
 
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just to clarify I removed my vents because my subwoofer enclose sits flat against the bulkhead and also because I noticed the rubber flaps were not a great seal

if I thought they were really needed I would have modified them or the enclosure so they could stay but I have never notice such large openings in any other truck I had

I might loose a little HVAC airflow from the outside cowl intake if all the windows are up but I usually always have a window partially down anyway ( no I don't smoke )
 
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This is an interesting thread. My truck with a 38R (cast wheel), 6637 intake is a screamer. A $300 S&B intake may be required but there are times I love the whistle. That said the interior noise is primarily the 7.3 raucous and insulation is key. I did find benefit in trimming a 3/8" thick pilates style mat to place in the engine compartment around where the clutch MC would be. There is a plastic blank there and it doesn't seal well.

If you have a smart phone, download a decibel meter app.
 
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What can't a smart phone do? Amazing tool. Thanks for the tip, I'm going to do that right now! I've had a S&B intake, they're very nice, but not as quiet as the Motorcraft Severe Duty Intake I put on my 7.3. It's quiet, but I can still hear the turbo whistle. Surprisingly, it didn't seem to affect that too much.
 
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The only thing i don't like about the 7.3 is the highway drone, my afe resonator took it away mostly, but the outside sound is not as nice. I think re-insulating the cab will help along with the door seal mod. Interesting stuff though. I also agree, 1000 bucks to insulate sounds ridiculous.
 
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I downloaded a decibel meter and drove down.the road..I got like 82 in the truck going down the interstate..way too loud.at idle in park, im sitting at 71..gotta do some of these to drop the sound level. Im gonna do the door seal mod and seal the cab vents first. Then ill see what difference that makes, then do the foam in the dash, and lastly do some under the carpet
 
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I'm going to see if my Ford dealership can find that part number for that Excursion sound insulation plate. It's ridiculous that Ford didn't put them in all of their trucks with the 7.3 and as it probably cost less than $2 to produce.

I ordered a decibel meter on Amazon for $18.

HVAC SuperTech, Thanks for the decibel reading on your truck. It gives us a baseline for a stock truck. I was looking at a decibel chart and a hairdryer is rated at 70, so yours (at 71) is pretty loud. Is your truck completely stock?
 
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Lol no, it's definitely not stock. I have a d66 turbo with a ww2billet wheel. Also have 250/100 injectors, larger fuel pump larger Tire no insulation on any of my piping or wrapping on any of my piping. S&b intake, 4 inch downpipe - 6 inch stacks with a muffler mind you. I have a crew cab dually on 35s.

Yeah I would be interested in that plate too. I wonder what it costs. I don't have time now but you might post up in Sunrise auto parts thread that they have and see what that panel costs from them.
 
#15 ·
The hush panels out if the excursions are no longer available from ford.

They just cheaped out and didn't put them in the trucks
 
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Hmmm.junk yards maybe
 
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I just did an extensive online search and it appears to be no longer available (Part Number YC3Z-78046A25-AA).

I guess I'll have to make one.