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#1 ·
Just wanted to share how I fixed the death wobble problem. Now I understand that some will say these dual steering stabilizers are just masking the issue. But it works. Ram has a single Steering Stabilizer, Ford doesn't have any so I think Ford should include a steering stabilizer on their trucks.

 
#3 ·
You're welcome. My F350 didn't have it either. But I did notice a slight wobble over some bumps and I experienced a full on death wobble in my 2011 Ram 2500 and it was the scariest thing ever. So when I felt that slight wobble I wanted to nip it in the butt right away.
 
#4 ·
I have to ask what may seem like a stupid question but it's genuine I assure you.

I get a little wobble with my F350 when I'm driving at highway speeds and hit a pot hole, bridge joint, etc. Not terrible. Wouldn't call it a death wobble where the steering wheel goes bonkers and I stain myself by any stretch.

The concept of the dual steering stabilizers interests me but I have questions. Will adding these put more stress on ball joints and other suspension parts? And what about the power steering pump?

Guess the last thing I want to do is fix one thing at the expense of something else especially when there may be nothing to really fix (if that makes sense).
 
#5 ·
Good questions.

Q1: Will adding these put more stress on ball joints and other suspension parts?
A1: No sure, but it really does help to smooth out the bumps. Ram HDs have a single steering stabilizer to address the Death Wobble issues. Ford has nothing, so adding this really helped out my truck.

Q2: And what about the power steering pump?
A2: I have no idea.

I added this kit because I remember the Death Wobble in my 2011 Ram 2500 and it was the scariest thing I have ever experienced in my truck. It sounded like a helicopter was in my truck and the truck shook so bad I thought I was going to die. I never want to experience that again. When I felt that first very small and slight wobble, I ordered this kit because I'm not going through that again.

My steering before this kit felt sloppy, after this kit was installed my steering is tight, firm and I have more confidence in it.
 
#6 ·
Just wanted to share how I fixed the death wobble problem. Now I understand that some will say these dual steering stabilizers are just masking the issue. But it works. Ram has a single Steering Stabilizer, Ford doesn't have any so I think Ford should include a steering stabilizer on their trucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdO7XIq4RwA
Um, Ford's have a steering stabilizer. Are there some trim levels that don't? Never heard of one not having it.

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#7 ·
My 2017 F350 did not come with a steering stabilizer. Thats why I bought one. I even called the Ford dealership and they said that Ford Super Duties do not come with a Steering Stabilizer. They recommended to buy an aftermarket kit.

My friends 2010 F350 dually doesn't have a steering stabilizer either.
 
#8 ·
I thought the ‘17s all came with a stabilizer? My DRW came with a single setup mounted to the frame. At 35k miles, it started getting a 3-5 sec wobble if I hit the right bump or pothole above 60mph. It was happening more frequently so I took it to a dealer. They said everything was tight and checked out.

Replaced the factory unit with a Rancho and havent had an issue in 12k miles. The factory one I pulled out had no resistance left in it. Also replaced the front shocks at the same time. They had barely any charge in them and were cupping the front tires from bouncing down the highway.

So I basically found out the factory shocks/stabilizers are not too great on DRW setups.
 
#10 ·
Have 26,000 miles on my 2017. A lot of guys are replacing shocks and stabilizer to get rid of the wobble so I bought Rancho 9000xl's.

I also got the Rancho stabilizer 7415 but it doesn't fit. Rancho website says it fits but a Rancho rep said they are working on a new stabilizer for the '17s. What stabilizer do you have? Outside edges of my front tires are shot.

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#15 ·
Do you also have the tow package? Mine is an XL DRW, LB, CC, 4x4 with the tow package.

Also, you can’t just look under a ‘17 and see it. You have to crawl under and look up. It mounts to the frame and runs over to the top of the tie rod. I thought mine didn’t have one when I went to install the Rancho unit because I was looking in the wrong spot. Very different from the standard ones that mount to the axle on other 4x4s.
 
#18 ·
My 2015 has one.
 
#30 · (Edited)
Here is a video of the Ford Death Wobble. And just because you have never experienced it doesn't mean it hasn't happened to others. This has happened to me in my 2011 Ram 2500 and it was the most terrifying thing I ever experienced in my truck, and it happened to me more than once until I got the fixed on my Ram.

This video is really bad.

This next video isn't as bad as the first one. I would say this is the beginning stages of it going from bad to H*LY SH*T.

Here is a video of another Ford owner that installed the dual steering stabilizer to correct the issue. Granted this is for a 2016 for the fix is still the same.
 
#31 ·
I've had death wobbles on my motorcycles a couple of times...scary events to say the least. Never had a wobble like this on any of our Fords. Won't be happy if it ever happens either. I think I'll wait until we experience one before sinking the money into a dual stabilizer though...we burn through vehicles too fast to add costs. Thanks for posting the videos and your setup though!
 
#42 · (Edited)
Installed the PMF Dual Stabilizer kit on my F250 Saturday afternoon. Start to finish was about 1 hour. Install was pretty simple once you figure everything out. The instructions (attached) were decent, but not real detailed, so I'll add my thoughts on the install below. All of the hardware is either powder coated or plated (Zinc?)... everything fit perfectly and all went together very nicely:

Tools needed:
3/8 drive ratchet
3/4" socket and open end wrench
9/16" socket and open end wrench
Blue Loctite (optional)
Small bubble level
Torque wrench (I used my 3/8 snap-on)

I installed all of the mounting bolts with the nuts facing up and had no clearance issues.
The 3/8" bolts for the diff cover do not require washers.
The clamp holding the main brace to the axle and diff cover looks like it won't fit with the bolts supplied (too short)... it will. Get one bolt started on the top, another on the bottom and start pulling it in. Bolts will be long enough. (uses 4 bolts, 4 nuts, 8 washers).
Of the remaining 4 bolts, the two shorter ones mount the dampers to the brace and dog bone (uses 2 bolts, 4 washers and 2 nuts).
The longest of all the bolts mount the shaft end of the dampers to the outer-most brackets (uses 2 bolts, 4 washers and 2 nuts).

For the diff and axle bracket, slide it in from the driver's side. install the two axle cover bolts first (loctite) but do not tighten. Install the axle brace next using the 4 bolts, 8 washers and 4 nuts. Once this is all installed, tighten them down (20 ftlbs on the diff cover bolts. I did good-n-tight on the bracket bolts).

Install the canister end of the dampers into the bracket using the 2 shorter bolts, 4 washers and 2 nuts along with the dog bone. DO NOT TIGHTEN!!!

Install the outer brackets on the link. The brackets should 'curve' inward, giving you 19 1/4" distance from eyelet to eyelet on the damper (Bilstein and Fox). I found that there is a 'ledge' on the link that the bracket fits up against that works perfectly for that distance. Install the bracket and verify that the bracket is level (use your bubble level). Once level, tighten to 16 ftlbs. Repeat for the other side.

Compress the damper and insert the longest bolt (bolt, 2 washers, 1 nut) through the bracket and into the shaft end of the damper. Torque to 65 ftlbs. Repeat for the other side.

Torque the center damper bolts to 65 ftlbs.

Verify there are no clearance issues.

Again, I used blue loctite on all of the hardware, even though the nuts were all nylocks.

Also note, in my photos below, my F250 has an OEM steering damper... so now I have three :)

Much less steering movement when going over the craptastic potholes and expansion joints her in Colorado. I think it was well worth the $299 and wish I had done it sooner.
 

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