You've got three options, SCT, Spartan, or BADP.

I've had the SCT LiveWire on my truck for 30,000 miles now with no problems, and over 5,000 miles with the DPF delete. I take it very easy driving my truck, and at 65 mph I will normally see 19-20 mpg.

Try calling Bill @ dfuser.com, best customer service I've had in a long time. The cost of the entire set-up depends on what options you want. You're gonna need the tuner, DPF or DPF/Cat delete pipe, and rear exhaust set-up depending on the size of your delete pipe.

 

I also have the SCT LiveWire and also purchased from Bill at dfuser.com. I can honestly say he has the best customer service without a doubt. I called around to a few places that sell the SCT livewire and the related dpf/doc delete and always got some answering service, with no return phone call. Bill seems to always answer the phone, he's prompt on shipping, he's been around quite a few years and gave me a helluva good price on my LiveWire extreme. I ordered on a Monday and it arrived on a Weds.

When it arrived he said to call him and he would walk me through updating the device from SCT and installing the software on my PC - and he did just that. Took about 20 minutes to download and install everything and update the SCT livewire from the Internet. He even walked me thru tuning the truck afterwards. I had zero issues with the whole process. I will purchase from him again with no hesitation.

If you go the route with an entire dpf/doc delete I think the best deal is powerstroker67's delete pipe, write him for a price.. but you'll find its just slightly more expensive than most other places DPF delete only.. AND the damn thing just fits perfectly with no rattles or anything - good heavy steel, quality welds and its just made well.

Just my $0.02 cents worth.

 

I would also like to echo the previous post, I will buy from Bill again. It is like anything nowadays, you can buy it from several different places but it boils down to customer service, and Bill DELIVERS!!! Thanks Bill.

Don

 

Cool, i'm in Atlanta and actualy found a company that sells sct, but no body sells a dpf delete or doc delete pipe. NONE of the diesel shops here don't want any thing to do with a 6.4, and its kinda anoying, but hey what can you do

 

The SCT dealer should be able to get the delete pipe from SCT. If not I am willing to sell my 5" Cat back DPF delete pipe a lot cheaper than you can find them anywhere else. PM me if interested. I only used it for a week until my full replacement came in.

 

sat 052408
dear soundmanford,
by now you have probably fixed up your truck and taken care of your problem.
i have the sct livewire with the 6.4 program. i am only a moderate mechanic but i replaced my dpf with a straight pipe. the regin has automatically quit. with no pressure difference in the sensors just before and after the filter, the trucks computer doesnt get called on to regin. my computer milage doesnt seem to have changed very much (perhaps 1.5 mpg) but since the fuel doesnt get dumped at regin time, i think i will get more miles per tank full.
does this all make sense? great luck!
please email me at my personal email address if youd like.
sincerely,
mark turik
turik@hughes.net

 

So you are saying that you don't have the dfp delete tune...and took off the dpf and the truck has never went back into regen..Please tell me more:bump:

 

tues. 052708
hi,
yes, i installed my dpf delete pipe on fri night and sat installed the sct livewire 6.4l tune and sct egt probe.

if you monitor the dpf regin on the sct, it should stay at 0.0 if there is no regineration. it has never changed out of the non regin mode that i know of.

there are 2 probes that measure pressure that affects this. one if just before the dpf and one is just after the dpf.

normally when there is a clogged dpf my truck dumps fuel into the exhaust system with burns really hot in the dpf to clear it out. this is caused by the two sensors having different pressure readings due to the clogged up filter. when the filter has been burned out the exhaust flow is back to normal, there is not much of a pressure difference from before and after the dpf.

with the delete pipe in place of the dpf filter the pressure sensors always read just about the same (since now there is a straignt pipe in place of where the dpf was.

sooooooo,,,,,,, no pressure difference between the two sensor probes ------ no regineration.

my thinking is the you will still get the same mpg rating from your trucks computer, but with no waisting fuel for regineration, you will go further on the same tank of gas. effectively giving you more distance with the same amount of fuel. does this make sense to you. this is my own theory and i am not a jenious for sure. plus, you definitely have less exhaust resistance with the dpf swapped out for a straight pipe. i

if you decide to try this i will be glad to share my compete experience with you.

other things that i think are important are to be sure your air pressure in all 4 tires is proper and equal in all wheels.

also clean you air filter or better yet invest in a larger cold air intake.

please contact me at my personal email if youd like.
turik@hughes.net

this has turned out more of necessity instead of just a fun project. cost of fuel is really hard to take. i drive 75 miles 5 days a week to raleigh for martial arts training. thank the good lord that i am a dentist and can still afford the cost.

sincerely,
mark turik

 

Does any of those Changes affect the warranty?

 

opcorn2:opcorn2: :look: opcorn:opcorn:

 

I read in a thread that a guy did dpf delete, with no tuner. And after a tank or two of fuel, the truck automaticaly went into regen mode. As a fail safe, even though the pressure sensors were reading the same...how many miles have you gone since the delete?

 

I have been reading a lot of threads on this site. Your 10 mpg is not too far from what I have been getting. I have a F450 with 4.88 gears and have added a Gear Vendors splitter (equivlent ratio ~3.9), and just went camping this weekend hauling a 11' camper and trailer with 5 horses; total load around 26K-28K. The lie-o-meter showed 7.4 mpg, which is usually about 10% high over hand calculated. This is my second trip at about the same mpg. Generally I get around 11 mpg. The best empty I have made are about 12 @ 70mph and about 15 @ 60mph. Before the splitter the same trip I got 12 mpg was about 9.5 mpg.

Anyone hauling this much load have a DPF delete tune and if so what changes if fuel economy and what brand.

 

I'll tell you this my Edge W/Attitude is giving my wife 19-20mpg on the hwy and we still have all the dpf stuff on the truck.:woot:

 

thanks for the explanation.

fri am 053008
hi julian,
thank you for the explanation!!! on the regin issue. could you recommend a "no regin" tune for me? i payed $4.73 for fuel yesterday. if my truck goes into regin, i will have to sell something big! you can reply to my personal email if youd like. turik@hughes.net

like the picture of your truck,,,, and the smoke.

sincerely,
mark

 

fri am 053008
hi julian,
thank you for the explanation!!! on the regin issue. could you recommend a "no regin" tune for me? i payed $4.73 for fuel yesterday. if my truck goes into regin, i will have to sell something big! you can reply to my personal email if youd like. turik@hughes.net

like the picture of your truck,,,, and the smoke.

sincerely,
mark

Yeah there are three right now......
Spartan diesel
Innovative
Bay Area Diesel Performance or BADP

 

ecomomy tunes

hi julian,

i looked at Spartan diesel, Innovative, and Bay Area Diesel Performance for an economy tune for my livewire. i am not finding one. do you have one for sale? i really appreciate your direction!
sincerely,
mark turi

 

hi julian,

i looked at Spartan diesel, Innovative, and Bay Area Diesel Performance for an economy tune for my livewire. i am not finding one. do you have one for sale? i really appreciate your direction!
sincerely,
mark turi

No I don't personally, but I know that Spartan has one in the works for the near future :nod:

 

Hunting&Horses, PM sent.

 

Passing notes in class.

 

So heres the 411 on my current siteation.(i know its spelled wrong). This weekend my best friend and i took a little trip to valdosta ga, about 250 miles from atl, in my old( his) 2003 f-350 dually. He's getting 24mpg (7.3 int) with a 73 nova pro street on a open trailer running 80mph. While my truck (08 350)pulling the same load got a whopping 6mpg. I also own 2 2005 6.0's, one 250 and one 350. the 250 runs a power pup with a full exhaust and intake and averages 16mpg with a 12klb load, and gets 18mpg dry. the other is a 350 bone stock F-350xl and gets 14 mpg unloaded and 12 with a load under 12k and 8-10 with my 47ft gooseneck loaded with 10 24hp yanmar farm tractors. all trucks are auto 5speed tq shifts and all (except 250) run 4.10's. So last week i decided that i would order a xcal3 from dj for my 6.0 350. 500 miles later and by my hand calculations the truck is now getting 18mpg dry and 16 with a 12k load. Now that you all know what i drive, you can imagine how outrageous my fuel bill is. all three of my trucks average 3k a month and always have loads behind them. So i asked myself how can i get back the glory days of my 7.3 with out buying a well 7.3( lets face it i like my king ranch's) So i remebered that i had a friend that took his 6.4 to spartan and is now getting 20mpg+ on the highway. So i called em, and looked at my options, and decided to take the plunge. I now am the proud owner of a complete 4in turbo back dpf delete exhaust system with air intake and a sct livewire, and cant wait for it to get here. My lead mechanic at my tractor dealer (American All Pro Tractors and Trailers) is going to do the install. I also ordered a 4in turbo back for the 350 6.0 and an intake system from dj's. Now if i can just find the time to get all the stuff installed. Thanks a bunch for all you guys who posted. Ill post pics when done, and hopefully ill see some mpg improvements. Also any one know where to find a gauge kit for my 6.0 and 6.4 Thanks

soundmanford

 

Trust me you don't want to do that. A DPF delete pipe is cheap and simple. If you gut out the DPF you're destroying a $1500 piece of emissions equipment that you may eventually need.

 

:nod::nod::nod:

 

Boost problems

I took the advise to not destroy my DPF unit and I purchased a Delete pipe off ebay. It is a flange with the 3 1/2 pipe that matched upped to my exhaust system. I ran the the truck with the DPF-R and the sensor emulator and every thing looked good with normal boost. I installed the delete pipe and took a trip hauling my pickup camper (4500 lbs) pulling a trailer with a Jeep and a 4 wheeler on it. On the level the truck would pull 19 to 20 lbs boost but on any grade the boost falls to 14 lbs and I have to shift down (manual tranny) .Any ideas on what I need to do to fix this??? I would say that my fuel milage is worst than it was. I did drive 300 miles with a empty truck and only got 11.5 mpg. I got 12.8 before I did this DPF delete.
Thanks for any ideas you might have.

Ben

 

What tune revision are you running?

 

I have a model FD 30 DPF-R that I purschased from H&S Performance, I didn't see any reference to a tune. This plugs into the port under the steering wheel and over rides the the regen. I was doing some checking and the lights on the DPF-R are bling fast all the time and they were not before I installed the delete pipe. I have sent an email to DPF-R for help.

 

i would probably look to get something else

 

John, real original, you cannot plug your own items without being a sponsor. You might want to get some of your own ideas as well.

 

Own ideas? I am not getting on here and plugging only linking to items people are asking about that has usful unformation to compare. I will delete though.

 

What do I need besides a SCT tuner with the DPF DELETE program to convert my truck to DPF delete. I have a delete dpf pipe installed??

 

Benfer, if you dont already have the SCT I would reccomend the Spartan Tuner it is far superior to the SCT. All you need to convert is either of the above mentioned tuners and a delete pipe, both of these are available on our website: Cobb's Diesel Performance :: Online Store - (Powered by CubeCart) Let me know if there is anything else I can be of help with!