Welcome from Western NC!

Looks like you're having lots of fun. 🤪

 

All that just to change the blinker fluid?

 

All that just to change the blinker fluid?

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Welcome from Western NC!

Looks like you're having lots of fun. 🤪

Yeah getting my feet wet replacing fuel system after cp4 failure

 

Yeah getting my feet wet replacing fuel system after cp4 failure

Ouch! 😭

A few days ago, had a coworker opine about how "bulletproof" the 6.7 is. Haven't had a chance to fill him in yet. Obviously, he isn't a mechanic. 😂

 

DCR conversion?

 

Yes I’d like to know what’s the best option. Definitely not tickled with the entire fuel system being compromised. I’ve heard the s&s kit doesn’t actually catch everything.

 

2014 F350 4x4 CC / long bed. All stock till now.

I just finished up converting my fuel pump from CP4 to the S&S DCR pump. Like many of you, I have an issue with all our manufacturing being exported, but purchased since S&S / Stanadyne aren’t doing anything the other US manufactures don't already do. S&S / Stanadyne manufacturing plants are in China, India, Italy, UAE and NC. So, it is anyone’s guess as to what and where the parts were manufactured and assembled (there is no indication on the box or the parts).

I will state that the fit and finish was impeccable (including packaging / shipping container). With all the bends in the high pressure fuel lines, they lined up perfectly, no manipulation at all, fit perfectly. Fingers crossed that the whole system is as well-designed and functions as advertised.

Only parts outside of the kit that I replaced were the fuel filters (both), vacuum pump gasket and serpentine belt (since everything was all apart). (IF I was to do it again, I would replace all the upper intake plenum gaskets as well as the 2 gaskets on the short lower crossover tube, which goes from lower intake to EGR).

My vacuum pump was leaking badly. Both passenger side bolts were not even finger tight. My only other issue was the fuel return line connection (driver side, back of engine-red circle in 2nd pic) was difficult to get to and release the connector (it is tight). It literally took me an hour to finally release it enough to get a pick in there to fully open. I broke a coolant line plastic fitting next to the upper air intake during the reinstall (I bumped it with my arm and it snapped off - I should have removed it during disassembly). *I also did not install the HOT side pipe correctly and it blew off (see my post under “motor problems” were it generated a one time P0401 code, so everything that went wrong during this process was self induced ).

I included pictures; 1st with everything removed except CP4, 2nd with all the parts removed (including CP4…note you have to remove fan / clutch, but left that in the shroud, moved out of the way), 3rd with DCR and all lines installed. There is a video from Thoroughbred Diesel which is excellent (link here;

) and the instructions provided are well written with pictures.

Took me approximately 12 hours total, which included the problem with fuel connector and cleaning all the parts prior to re-install (they estimate it is a 5-6 hour job). I split it into 2 days and intended to take 2 days prior to starting the job.
Upon completion, I primed the system 7 times since I could hear the pump gurgling through 5 cycles. Truck started instantly (no excessive cranking) and idled / runs perfectly (other than my previous self-induced problem of the HOT side pipe).

Prior to the conversion, first start of the day, my truck had a slight ‘ticking’ which went away after a couple of minutes. It doesn’t do that at all now (after several ‘cold’ starts) and I would state it is quieter than before (but that may be very subjective).

Everything removed except CP4
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Everything removed including CP4 (upper right corner red circle is pain in the butt fuel connector)
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DCR pump and all lines installed (one crossover fuel line to passenger side remains, all others new).
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Thanks for the right up. On the fence right now but leaning toward the dcr swap. Trucks tore down & ready for entire fuel replacement. Just have to drain & drop tank for cleaning.

To date mine is still stock (except for DCR). I haven't gone on the weight loss (diet) program yet.

Did you have to replace your lift pump & pump in tank? Thanks

 

Did you have to replace your lift pump & pump in tank? Thanks

Hello,
I actually did the conversion prior to an actual CP4 fail, so in my case reference your question, no on replacing lift pump or other equipment.
I have just under 10k miles on the DCR pump to date. Functions as the day it was installed. I monitor desired and actual rail pressures with EZ-Lynk, truck is (still) stock.
scott

 

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

 

If you had metal shavings everywhere (rail, injectors, return line, tank, supply line, filters, pump), consensus is that you must replace hard fuel lines. Flushing is not sufficient and risk sending shavings back through your new system. Be thoughtful about how you proceed or you might be doing the work twice with double the cost.

 

You are correct. I’m replacing everything but the fuel tank. Just trying to decide on which fuel contamination kit to buy oem or s&s.

 

I have the s&s, zero issues so far. You shouldn't have to replace the filter unless the cp4 fails. Everyone hates SPE. My dad got the dealer to install a kit under warranty. Dealer put SPE on. Already had to have a leak on that kit fixed. Could be shoddy work, I did mine myself. Nothing like doing your own work to take ownership of failures. You know every bolt and seal, and whether it fit just right or wasn't just right. Never know when someone else does the work.. that said, I opted for the general consensus on s&s quality.

 

This!

Why I do as much of my own work as I can.

Right or wrong, I know how it was done.

 

SPE products are hit or miss. Their dpk is a miss and have caused rail pressure issues.

 

For the price of some repairs, you could skip a job, or two, or four, and the expenses that come with it, to do the work yourself. @175-250/hr labor, why work to make $5g when you can save $5g?

I'd rather know something was done right, than to find out later I paid top dollar rates for a $15/hr parts changer that cut corners. I've been burned too many times...

 

For the price of some repairs, you could skip a job, or two, or four, and the expenses that come with it, to do the work yourself. @175-250/hr labor, why work to make $5g when you can save $5g?

I'd rather know something was done right, than to find out later I paid top dollar rates for a $15/hr parts changer that cut corners. I've been burned too many times...

Because I'd probably cause more problems ... It's at a reputable dealer who's been working on my trucks for years. Ain't nothing like a warranty and being able to pull up to the dealer to have them repair something that they was supposed to fix correctly in the first place. But I've never had that problem with my people ... I make quite a bit more than $1,000 per day

 

Yup, seen em. Probably seen my truck speeding around or our heavy equipment all over Vegas.

 

Yup ... Such a small world 🆒 We should get a beer sometime... And talk shop / business. 🤘