This might get interesting...

To answer your question though... I feel they are and their customer is top notch.

 

This might get interesting...

Rattlesnake saw this one coming a mile away! :thumb:

 

It's not just there products you get. You get there service to, you have to remember how much R and D they have in the products. They have to recoup there cost of the r and d some how.

 

you get some companies that come along and copy the BPD the best they can and offer up a suggestion of cardboard to combat cold weather concerns vs an actual bypass thermostat option

they also don't pay for the R&D they just ride the coat tails you might get heat for insinuating BPD is a rippoff you have the option to not buy it but it is never a rip off situation

you see what you get before you buy and if you buy it you get more than you were expecting and awesome customer service to boot

 

Even bpd cardboard shipping boxes are top notch lol

 

Get the BPD EGR cooler from them and get the rest from Autonation White Bear Lake or Sunrise. Assuming you aren't looking for an air to liquid cooler and just the updated OEM.

 

Rip off? The Price may be hard to negotiate with, but bullet proof typically means never have to be messed with again..EVER..

You could always buy a new engine?

 

My mechanic, a powerstroke specialist in the San Diego area, has replaced four BPD egr coolers this year alone. He said they covered the part under warranty, but did not cover labor (not cheap). I can understand that R&D is costly, however, an egr cooler is not exactly a complicated engineering feat. It seems many here have god-like reverence for BPD, I guess I'll give their products a shot...does K-Y jelly and a therapist come standard with purchase?

 

The OP has a point. Items like an OEM oil cooler are considerably marked up versus Autonation or other places. $430 vs $290.

Conversely, the products they design and manufacturer are top notch and you get what you pay for.

 

first off their OEM prices are not more than OEM dealers retail and thats what I have to pay unless I go online

they also sell their kit's without the OEM cooler so you can source your own they aren't making you pay retail it's just an option



and I have a hard time with the "4 EGR coolers at the same mechanic" statement then again it is only hearsay unless you were the mechanic

and Bill Hewitt has been mentioned so ?

 

Just out of sake of curiosity, why is Bill Hewitt so heavily criticized? I'm fairly new to the world of Powerstroke 6.0. I'm familiar with the 7.3, I owned one for 9 years, but the 6.0 is still uncharted territory. I'm simply forwarding info my mechanic told me, the exact question I asked was "will I ever need to replace my egr cooler again if I go with the bulletproof option?" His response was..."not exactly" and that he replaced four this year. Google BPD EGR cooler failure...failures are not unheard of.

 

EGR cooler has some work to it

cut off the ends remove the OEM junk make up the tubes and plates weld them ( that sounds easy but the doing it right isn't )

then weld the bulkheads and tank ends back on and test

I bet I oversimplified that a few times over? but I have seen them in various stages at their shop so going off of my basic guess of what goes in to one

 

if you know enough to wrench on these and you watch Bill and his videos you will see a lot of BS and he is a or profit showman

there are much better DIY guys like Diesel tech Ron


and I agree the cooler failures are not impossible but mechanics tend to exagerate or try to point you in a direction they want you to take

but I firmly believe BPD puts more effort and welding technique upgrades in to this than any of the Cheap EGR tube swappers

I think if there was a rash of BPD failures we would here about it on these forums

 

I did get the impression that Hewitt is a shill for companies he associates with. Many videos are him pushing a particular brand of product. I do watch Diesel Tech Ron videos as well, he does actual work instead of just "talking about it" like I have seen with Hewitt. Well, the consensus seems to be that BPD products are worth the premium price. Although expensive, it's cheaper than buying lessor parts that fail.

 

Any part, whether it be new or modified, has a chance of failure, period. It's what the producer does about it is what's important. If something of BPD's fails then they will make it right. Take their original water pumps for example, before the billet ones, they had failure issues not caused by BPD directly so they stopped using them and went soley to the all billet pumps. They want to ensure that people get what they pay for.

I am curious about what failed with the BPD EGR coolers, according to your mechanic.

 

I didn't ask the specifics of the said failures, just if he has experienced failures. You never know the variables, if a young guy with a ridiculous tuner beats the living **** out of his truck, just about anything can fail if pushed hard enough.

 

No offense Drew... but what I hear you say is that you know nothing about the 6.0 and you are just relaying things you heard from your mechanic (parts changer) who has had four failed egrs... so he has had multiple issues, but keeps putting them in and you decide blame the company?... seems really legit.

I'll stand by a company who is based and made in the usa... who has served thier country... who has pioneered the design of innovative parts... and who consistently supports it's customers (and potential customers).

 

Can't you change the thread title to bpd products worth the money.

 

Look at the vk688 kit from bpd they were doing a discount on it for powerstroke.org members, rattlesnake runs the kit on his truck he can give you more info

Bullet Proof Engine Oil Cooler, Factory Oil Filter

 

Does BPD know about these so called failures? I know for a fact that BPD wants to know about any kind of fail it that their products may have, so they can look into them and correct them.

 

I would assume so, he said their warranty is second to none. Keep in mind that I live in Oceanside, Ca in the shadow of Camp Pendleton. I see Marines (God Bless them!) beat the hell out of Powerstrokes, Duramax's, and Cummins on a regular basis. Not to mention going 150+ mph on a sportbike down the freeway. Again, he never said that BPD products are bad by any stretch. I'm trying to be a smart consumer and ask questions from the standpoint of humility and respect for those more knowledgeable than I am. I changed to name of thread to be less incendiary.

 

I've used a lot of BPD parts and have been nothing but impressed. I don't see them claiming anywhere that they beat OEM prices (egr cooler) or have no markup (radiator). They R&D the parts they sell so if you need a radiator now (for example) you know you can buy it off there website and it will arrive Un-damaged to you within days. You don't have to worry about risk of the R&D yourself or the part won't fit or be good quality. I think there products are worth every penny. I'll be the first to call BS on bad products, like the eBay radiator I ordered before I got the BPD one.

As for those bulletproofing kits the companies sell, I think the attraction is its a one order solution versus sourcing all the parts from dealer, which can be a pain. The fact it was $6 cheaper, that's a bonus IMO

 

Few months ago I order some parts from bpd, they threw in a few shirts for my wife. The box of parts show up and I gave my wife her shirts she totally didn't care I just spent $400 on parts. That is some smart business. Happy wife happy life

 

@drew5250

:ORG welcome:

 

If your machanic told you that their warranty was second to none then I think your question about their product was already answered. Nothing wrong with getting a second opinion, which I feel you got in this thread.:beer:

 

Absolutely! Keep in mind that I'm not a billionaire and working with an extremely aggressive budget. Law school is $182,500 and I'm trying to pay off as much as possible so that interest doesn't kill me in the long run. In summary, BPD is the way to go according to the experts on this forum. I have to admit, I strategically chose the thread name so that people would chime in and give me their .02. Thanks to all who contributed to set me on the best path possible.

 

Would you like to share our Kool-Aid?

 

I think what your mechanic was trying to say was....that he has seen 4 EGR coolers fail.....and then replaced them with BPD coolers....and wallah, no more issues.

Otherwise, Like the rest, were was the failure, what was it from, so we all know what to look for, was it the square or round cooler or both?

And the 6.00$ you saved, hey bro, beer coozie for every one..just saying.

Edit: I think I'm late on this.

 

Lol at the people who think bpd should buy, store and ship items for free....that's what they would be doing if they didn't mark up parts they don't manufacturer them selves.

Drew, give bulletproofdiesel a call with any questions you have.....they will give you an honest no sales pitch answer I garrantee that.
Ken is usually pretty busy but Andrew is very knowledgeable and assist you.

 

ARCHOIL!!!!!



That is all......:wall:

 

LOL

 

Yeah I had noticed in one of their recent ads that everybodies favorite "blingy blue pitbull" brand had there own "upgraded" egr cooler... I am sure its just as top notch quality as those slip joint y pipes.

 

So are the BPD coolers labeled in any way ? . I purchased a truck that had some BPD parts on it but I can't remember if
the cooler had any markings. It would be good to know if any questions arose later .

 

they have Carb markings on them now, can't remember how far back that started

 

@drew5250 - You've attracted the attention of @DieselFab67, aka Ken, the head honcho at BPD. Pull up his profile and start reading some of his posts. Shouldn't take too long to figure out what kind of guy/business you're dealing with.

 

It could be jesus christ and this guy will argue his point.
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