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alternator won't charge

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5.9K views 7 replies 4 participants last post by  Hblick48  
#1 ·
Hi, I'm new to the forum, and I've got a quick question.
I've got a 2004 6.0 powerstroke, zero mods, zero extras.
The battery symbol came on the other day and since then I've been trying to figure out why.
I had the batteries tested at Advanced Auto, and they said they were fine, so I put in a new (re-manufactured) alternator from them. There was no change. Alternator still read around 12v when running, so I had the old one bench tested. They said it passed, so I returned the new one, reinstalled the old one, and started troubleshooting.
Here's what I've got so far:
Voltage at the alternator is same as battery voltage, and does not go up when truck is running (around 12v, but slowly deteriorates while truck is running) I have to charge the batteries overnight for them to last through the next day as I drive to work and back) yesterday voltage dropped below 9v on the way home and the truck almost shut down (lights got very dim, abs light came on, clock was flashing, etc.)
After charging the batteries (~12.6v) with key off, the orange I-sense wire reads 12.6v (battery voltage) green wire reads ~0
With key on, engine off, orange wire reads ~12v and green wire slightly less (11.9ish)
With engine running:
orange and green wires read 12.2v and 12.04v respectively
voltage at the alternator (red wire to alternator casing) is ~12.2v, same as battery voltage. (going from alternator to a ground on the truck yields same voltage)
DC current between the two batteries is 15A, current off the other red wire on driver side battery is 33A
DC current through red wire from alternator to battery reads 0.6A, and voltage drop across this wire is 0.3mV.
Battery voltage is 12.2v

Is it possible my alternator is indeed bad even though it passed the bench test? (which would also imply the brand new re-manufactured alternator form Advanced Auto was also bad out of the box)
 
#2 ·
You didn't specify where your test points were. Or if connectors were hooked or unhooked during tests. Next thing to do is check integrity of fuse #46 (10A Red) in fuse box at left side of dash.
 
#4 ·
ok, I jumpered the connector to the pins on the alternator so I could check their voltage while they are still connected. Here's what I found:

key on, engine off: 12.45v orange 1.72v green
engine running: 12.2v orange 1.73 green

Now, when I disconnect my green jumper, the green wire goes up to 12.2V, and when I reconnect it to the alternator, it goes back down to 1.73. Orange wire stays the same regardless.
 
#5 ·
i think your alt is toast but can not say for sure but i would stop driving your truck until you get it figured out as you may have already ruined the ficm with low voltage
check your grounds out test at the alt output and at the batteries you should be able to track it down that way, easy peasy.
also laod test your batteries your self while disconnected from the truck but i would bet you have grounding issues
good luck man :thumb: and happy 4th
 
#6 ·
Ok, this time I went to Autozone. They bench tested the alternator and said it was bad, so I got a new one from them (which they bench tested before I installed it). Charging up the batteries separately tonight to make sure everything is OK. This implies that Advanced Auto Parts gave me a incorrect "good" results when they tested my old alternator the other day, and that also the new alternator I got from them the other day was bad right out of the box. BTW, the new alternator from Autozone is reading 14.0V at idle with no accessories on, and 13.8V with the AC blasting. Is this normal?? (measuring to the alternator housing and to a ground wire read the same)
 
#7 ·
yes it means your batteries are low.
so not to worry
also parts store generators are notiorious for being JUNK
i got stuck in sacramental and went through 5...yes that is corrext 5 brand new out of the box alternators to get one good enough to get me home and it still failed in just 8 months...
i now run a power max usa made alt high output and it has been great but having a back up alt in the truck is never a bad idea with these...
most likely you wont need it but when you do...its like a gun :hehe:
 
#8 ·
Just had similar problem. Wouldn't start. Jumped it and drove 100 miles. Scangauge voltage would vary between 12.5 and 13.2 at highway speed. Next day no start, jumped it and went to auto store. Their tester showed alt, batts, and starter ok. Still same no start next day. I pulled one of the alternator bolts. Hard to break loose, corrosion covered bolt threads. Installed heavywire between alternator bolt and right battery ground wire that is attached to inner fender. Got a jump and scangauge showed 13.4 volts steady. Proves that alternator needs a good ground to work.