I would not idle a new truck for hours at a time for 2kw
I would buy a fuel sipping Honda genny ( a little less convenient but no wear and tear or concerns for your high dollar truck)

but you're correct if ford is offering it then ? you have a good question and maybe they have it set up to deal with this ?

I also just read an article about all the stuff they are not offering due to chip shortages and not wanting to park vehicles all over the planet while they wait for them so maybe this will get cut also ?

 

As we know, the Pro Power Onboard system has been available in the F150 gassers for a couple of years.

So, I wasn't surprised to see them available in the 2023 F250/F350 gassers, but was surprised to see them available in the 2023 F250/F350 Power Stroke because of the idling issue.

Is Ford ignoring the idling issue?

Or, is it really not an issue?

Or, have they done something in these 2023 models to mitigate the idling issue when using the Pro Power Outboard system?

If you can't safely (without compromising the Power Stroke) idle the engine for extended periods to use the Pro Power Outboard, then it dramatically undercuts its usefulness.

Cheers,

Bryan

 

the F150 systems are impressive on the videos but I know 0 people who have one

is the 2k the limit for the 6.7 ? they must have an idle up and pcm interaction for the genny
but finding that answer will be tough until you buy it ;-)

 

I believe the 2k is the limit for the full line of 2023 F250/F350.

I sure hope someone here can answer this critical question---before I order one and find out it's a problem when I get it!!

Dealer is totally clueless on the question.

Cheers,
Bryan

 

The way I see it is, just because Ford offers this option doesn't mean they are saying extended idling is good. The concern with idling these diesels is emissions related as far as I know. Maybe they will implement some programming to help mitigate some of the side effects of idling, but what can they really do, up the RPM's, increase heat in the exhaust, squirt more DEF. I would still expect increased soot load and more regens.

I thought I heard talk that Ford will be implementing a fuel injector for regens into the exhaust, like some of the other manufacturers have done for years. Maybe that will help reduce regen related oil dilution, especially if there will be more frequent regens, or some type of mini regen.

 

didn't know idling was an issue in these trucks. my trucks idle for about a third of their life. hours on end. i also was reading how ford idle turture tests these trucks in cold weather to make sure they are reliable. that being said you are using a little under a half gallon per hour of idling. you may want to check out what a small generator will use. i got a tri-fuel (gas, propane, NG) from costco for 700 bucks that runs 7-9kw depending on what fuel your on. not sure what your planning on running but i think the 2kw is the size of the battery not the output?

 

Thank you. It is good to hear of your extensive experience with idling your diesels.

And no, I don't know that idling is to be avoided. I've not read anything from Ford on this question, only comments saying that it should be avoided, but those may not be correct at all.

And yes, carrying a portable generator is certainly an option. If I were to get an F250 or F350 Power Stroke with Pro Power, I would install the wiring and connections so it's primary use would be to recharge my Lithium battery bank in my RV as I'm driving down the road. Also could use it, of course, as emergency backup power to recharge my Lithium bank if the sun isn't cooperating to provide enough solar energy to my solar panels.

I would love to find some official info from Ford regarding idling of Power Strokes.

Cheers,

Bryan

 

What kind of official info would that be? They have maintenance guidance based on idle time, and they offer the ability for manual regens on some trims, again, for those who may idle often or operate in a way that doesn't allow complete regens to occur. Ford knows that these trucks are used in many different applications, some applications involve lots of idle time.
The issue with extended idling has to do with the emissions system, possibly requiring early replacement of some of those systems, like EGR or DPF. I have read of other concerns like oil dilution, but shorter maintenance intervals would address that I guess.

Also, there is a difference between idling 30 minutes every now and then, and idling 4 hours a day. It sounds like your use would include plenty of highway driving with only occasional extended idling. Out of curiosity I looked in the 2023 owners manual under on board generator to see if they included any additional guidance on extended idling, I saw none.

 

What kind of official info would that be? They have maintenance guidance based on idle time, and they offer the ability for manual regens on some trims, again, for those who may idle often or operate in a way that doesn't allow complete regens to occur. Ford knows that these trucks are used in many different applications, some applications involve lots of idle time.
The issue with extended idling has to do with the emissions system, possibly requiring early replacement of some of those systems, like EGR or DPF. I have read of other concerns like oil dilution, but shorter maintenance intervals would address that I guess.

Also, there is a difference between idling 30 minutes every now and then, and idling 4 hours a day. It sounds like your use would include plenty of highway driving with only occasional extended idling. Out of curiosity I looked in the 2023 owners manual under on board generator to see if they included any additional guidance on extended idling, I saw none.

Thanks for your thoughts and for checking the 2023 Owners Manual.

I don't have any specific guidance in mind, just anything where Ford mentions idling, or even better talks about using the Pro Power system and the assumed fact of idling.

I can envision some 1 hour idles while RVing at a campsite, but not routinely.

Cheers,

Bryan