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2010 F250 High rail Pressure

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#1 ·
wanting to get some opinions here on next course of action. Long story short bought a 2010 F250 with a cracked #7 pistons. Tore down did a total rebuild with Stage 2 DD60 completed bottom / top-end sent to machine shop. Did stud the bed plate and heads. Everything has preformed great, no leaks and all Short terms in Forscan look great.

The issue i am having is i get a High Fuel Rail Pressure interment. I have monitored the rail pressures and nothing is out of the ordinary. at idle calling for 5000 and its running 5090 to 4090. Starts just fine. I haven't done wide open throttle yet because of the fresh rebuild but running normal with a decent heavy foot on a hill its is running around 20000 psi, which seems normal.

Adding in here that i do not know how long the truck set with a half tank in it. I did add additional 15 gallons to full with Diesel Kleen.

Was wanting to get opinions on do you think i have a problem or would you run it a while longer? total miles since rebuild is 210 miles.

Thanks,
Rob
 
#4 ·
Thanks for the replys... I did purchase the MichiganMotorsports wiring harness kit for the pump and ohms everything out. checked good. I will run the data log on the way home tonight and post the screen shot. I think Toque will allow me to do that.

TD-5 - where is that located? which software are you using ? If needed i can order the IDS clone.

Thanks all.
 
#5 ·
That is from the old original H&S platform, you could buy their Maximum Calibration & Control program and do custom tuning . Unfortunately H&S no longer exists. Possibly IDS would allow access & the ability to change factory parameters?
 
#10 ·
So ,...is desired and actual running together on the pressures ?
or deviating
can we assume there is an error code popping ?

Did you replace the harness inside the pump ?
known chafing spots there

I would suggest not messing with the tune , until you have the engine running correctly
 
owns 2006 Ford F250 Lariat FX4
#11 ·
Yes, error code is popping due to the deviation.

Deviation is somewhere around 11000 psi desired and actual is 16000psi. showing upwards around 45%. normal runs under that are around 3-6%

I was not planning on messing with the tune. I would have to go and buy another set of them for Ezlynk.

Was more looking for direction on weather it is a pump issue or fuel rail pressure sensor issue. The harness was brand new out of packaging for both fuel pump and injector harness. I did install the zip tie holders and ohm the wiring harness out to make sure it was good during assembly. The only thing harness wise is the little pigtail jumper was not replaced.

Thanks,
 
#13 ·
Rail sensor maybe , but not common
Throttle valve in the pump is more likely
several problems with the internal harness rubbing and giving a false signal to the throttle valve
I suppose the throttle valve could be sticking some as well

Low pressure is more of what I run into , rather than too much pressure

Since the truck is "unknown" to you -- hard to know what is "normal" for the current tunes
tho , shouldn't be throwing a code
 
owns 2006 Ford F250 Lariat FX4
#14 ·
Thanks for the info Hydro, yes from what i have been reading for some time on these forms is low pressure and no starts, etc.

Is the throttle valve sticking going to cause the pump to implode? or would i be alright driving it to see if it clears up in the next 250 miles or so?

I think before i go getting to crazy with the pump, ill look into going with a set of tunes from Great White tunes and get a fresh set that i know what they are.
 
#15 ·
Should be fine
 
owns 2006 Ford F250 Lariat FX4
#16 · (Edited)
Definitely more than a momentary deviation of more than 3%. Could be the fuel rail pressure sensor, the wiring to the sensor, or the High pressure fuel pump pressure control valve (PCV). Unfortunately the PCV on the pump is not serviceable and the complete pump must be changed out. The wiring to the HPFP should be good as you mentioned that harness/gasket was replaced.
 
#19 ·
Yes, 6.4. I did change the FRPS and no change. I am going to order the pump this week and change. I got the IDS software in and ran the High Pressure Test and the pump sounds like **** up around 18000-25000 psi. Did pass the test though but you can def here the change in sound.
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#21 ·
Nothing to the engine including removing it has to have the cab off ... Depending on what your willing to deal with. To removed the pump, you gotta take the driver side crosspipe thing off the valve cover. Degass bottle and battery trey. Take about a hour. Then the fun part begins. The two up pipes the go-to the turbo have to remove 6 bolts. 1/4 inch ratchet is going to be your friend. 8mm short. Then 2 bolts for turbo and drain lines. Then she is right there and easy to deal with. If you having problems with the up pipes don't be afraid to loosen all cab bolts and remove the front 6 and leave the back 2 threaded in about a quarter turn then rise a little to give you some room. Don't need much but it is going to fatigue your hand because you can only turn a little each time but can be done. Not hard at all just can be frustrating.