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I've been researching the crap out of diesel pickup trucks for the last year trying to decide what to get. I'm a big fan of the 6.4 because of the simplicity of deleting the DPF adding a tuner and intake and making over 500HP and 1000TQ. But at the same time I've heard such crazy variances in gas mileage with them and if they ever decide to actual do emissions checks where I live I'll have to jump through those hoops as well. At any rate, from what I've read here and elsewhere the main issues with the 6.0's lie in the EGR and the EGR cooler which fail and then cause the head gaskets to fail. My question is, upon purchase of 6.0 what do you have to do to ensure long term reliability? Can I simply get a Elite Diesel full EGR delete installed and go on my way, or are Head studs and new Gaskets a must have as well? Can the EGR delete be done with the cab on, or does it need to come off? I would definitely be running aftermarket programming (probably Erics tunes from Innovative Diesel).

I'm basically trying to figure out how much money I need to drop on the truck after it's purchased. For example I know if I got a 6.4 I would have to drop at least 1500 on it to get a tuner, delete pipe, and aftermarket intake. Programmers for 6.0's are a lot cheaper but I don't know how much I need to spend on deleting the EGR or adding head studs yet...

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I have a 6.4 and am looking into the same thing. I had a tuner rep tell me that running a tune (canned or custom) for an extended period of time will eventually clog the egr on the 6.4. I am in the same spot as you, I want to have a some more power (not a ton) and want this engine to last a very long time. So I am currently looking into an egr delete and head stud job. Rudy's seems to be the best price for what seems to be a very reputable shop. So in the mean time I am running the dpf delete and trans only (stock hp) tune. I'll be curious as to what some of the other guys say.
 

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Here is my list for you.

EGR Delete 350.00
Coolant Filtration 135.00
Exhaust 300-500.00
SCT 450.00 with 3 custom tunes mild nonstudded file

Its the matter how you drive it as well, also pull the oasis report on the vehicle to make sure the history of it. As for anything else you really dont need anything else just drive it with some sense the harder you drive it the chances of blowing gaskets will be higher, and regular maintance
 

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Link to the coolant filtration kit? I don't plan on drag racing it, but I do love the power of a diesel...
 

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I have a 6.4 and am looking into the same thing. I had a tuner rep tell me that running a tune (canned or custom) for an extended period of time will eventually clog the egr on the 6.4. I am in the same spot as you, I want to have a some more power (not a ton) and want this engine to last a very long time. So I am currently looking into an egr delete and head stud job. Rudy's seems to be the best price for what seems to be a very reputable shop. So in the mean time I am running the dpf delete and trans only (stock hp) tune. I'll be curious as to what some of the other guys say.
That's a nice looking truck. EGR delete on the 6.4 seems a bit more involved since you have to add the wastegate to it. Not a lot of guys have done it yet from what I've seen and I would think it would void your warranty. That's a big chance to take on such a new truck.
 

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So I am goin to a 6.4 and same deal. I want the power, so I run tunes but I am goign to take it easy with tune pwer. I just want mileage and a pep when I step on it. Otherwise I need longevity. So would deleting the EGR all together asap be the best or even if it clogs up would it be the same to do it then. I know on my duramax we just do an EGR plate blocker... no one makes anything like that. And with EFI Live tuning I can shut it right off, can Spartan do that as well? I would hope for the price!
 

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dieselsite.com has coolant filteration, at least for the 6.0, but you can make a kit, for cheaper.

Also there are others on this site who sell them.
 

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After doing some searching I found quite a few threads from people who deleted their EGR and then had major issues with the truck running like crap. Has aftermarket tuning overcome this issue, or are people still having issues after deleting the EGR?
 

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Sinister Diesel or River City Diesel make nice EGR Delete's and can be had for about $275-$300. Adam @ First Coast Diesel Performance make a realy nice delete if you want to venture into a delete that welds up your manifold and is not reversible. Deleting your EGR should not cause your truck to run worse if your tune adjusts for it.

A coolant filter is a great idea for some additional cheap insurance as is a good bypass oil filter. HEUI injectors like clean oil.

I think it essential to have a way to monitor ECT and EOT to know if you are heading for a clogged oil cooler. I think the Edge Insight is the best monitoring tool around for the price but it can be done with separate gauges too. Knowing that the oil cooler is getting clogged up before you have EGR cooler problems and your truck starts puking etc. can save a bunch of grief.

IF you have to replace head gaskets (and most likely you will at some point in time) then install ARP head bolts.

Keep up on oil changes and filter changes (oil and fuel), exercise your turbo regularly to keep the VGT vanes from sooting up, and let you turbo cool off to 350* or so before shutting the truck off and your truck should be pretty reliable.

Of course if you want more power SCT with custom tunes is the only way to go.
 

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Link to the coolant filtration kit? I don't plan on drag racing it, but I do love the power of a diesel...

Your going to get sucker punched by the bug. :hehe:
 

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How do these hold up overtime BONE stock? Im looking at an 06, want reliability, but never going to chip it, just need good, reliable transportation.

I cant seem to find any good hard data, other than LOTS of people changing headgaskets, and doing studs....
 

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EGR kits are over priced. You can easily modify the system to do the same as a kit.
So, what i am hearing is.... Engineered zip ties are overpriced, just use bread ties cause they work fine.
 

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So, what i am hearing is.... Engineered zip ties are overpriced, just use bread ties cause they work fine.
Good point. That was where I was last fall. I could easily make something but for the money, I got some piece of mind and a warenty.
 
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