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-Quick story... Well I was on the verge of getting rid of my truck when the dealer offered me a trade in value of $8,500 to which I had to laugh :rofl: and demand my keys back! So I made the agreement with the wife that I will keep my truck (she REALLY didn't want me to trade it in for a gas burner truck. I didn't want to get rid of it, but economically it was a better choice - until the low ball trade in value that is). So anyways the agreement consisted of me keeping my truck, but I get to make it the way I want to! :nod: So I've been catching up on some needed maintaining - rotated the tires and changed the fuel filters. I did what seems to be common by reading around and broke the secondary fuel filter cap and stripped the water seperator screw. :doh:
-Now I catch her on her own words... So I went ahead and ordered a billet cap and the fancy screw that everyone talks about that I guess I can remove with my hand now?? Both of them are from diesel manor. While I was on the ball and spending money I went ahead and got the coolant filter system from MKM Customs - pretty excited for all these to arrive and get installed! I'm also going to get my bed liner sprayed in finally (I have the money sitting aside for that just waiting on better weather and time off)
-Now for the questions... I'm going to order my EGR delete kit when I get a little more side cash, but what else do you recommend? I'm not trying to mess with the oil cooler for now unless you all think I should, but I'm hoping the filter will prevent that. I'm definatley wanting to do leveling kit with 33 or 35?? and throw some gauges on the pillar. Any other suggestions? Should I get all the fluids flushed and/or changed? Maybe delete the muffler? Head studs seem a little pricey for now so they are probably out of the question until they fail... Let me hear what you recommend :icon_ford:
 

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ScangaugeII or Insight to monitor the EOT and ECT first. The coolant filter might help clean the system, but it's not foolproof. I like the BPD EGR delete, mainly because it's like repacing the EGR cooler, except this one is plugged. I've heard stories of some EGR delete pipes leaking from not being supported in the right places. Never seen it, just heard of it. The cost isn't much different either
 

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ScangaugeII or Insight to monitor the EOT and ECT first. The coolant filter might help clean the system, but it's not foolproof. I like the BPD EGR delete, mainly because it's like repacing the EGR cooler, except this one is plugged. I've heard stories of some EGR delete pipes leaking from not being supported in the right places. Never seen it, just heard of it. The cost isn't much different either
Thanks for the input.. The one I was looking at was recommended by a few people and only ran $150 for it - sounded better price than 3-400... As far as the Scangauge or Insight goes - whats the advantage in running them versus the pillar gauges? I like the look of the pillar gauges better, but also want whats best for the truck...
 

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The advantage to the scangauge2 is the vast amount of information it can get from the truck. It can monitor alot of the existing sensors.
You would need those pillar gauges and some scanning software to get what that little thing can do. Scangauge costs about $165, that is only the cost of just one gauge.
You should have a fuel pressure gauge (need to add since there is no fuel pressure sensor on the truck), and if you want to fill out your pillar set, a pyrometer and a boost gauge.
 

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I like the looks of the Insight better, but the SGII has a better price, haha. What all can they monitor or is there a link that will show it? I can't find a list of them. I like the fact the Insight can monitor 8 at a time and the SGII only shows 4. Seems that if I were going to only watch 4 I'd just get the pillar gauges... Also, I have an SCT programmer on the truck set to the canned performance tune - not sure if that will make a difference on anything..
 

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Found a list of what they can monitor, but not have another question.. where do each of them mount? I have found some that mount on the RV Mirror, on the dash, etc, but haven't seen a pillar mount for either of them.. That's where I'd really like to mount them at - is it even possible? If so do they make one that I can put some gauges in as well as the monitor? Sorry for all the questions I'm new to this part of it - had my truck for 3 years almost, but never done anything like this so I'm pretty stoked and want to go into it and do it right.
 

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I mounted my CTS here using the dash pod

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I mounted my CTS here using the dash pod
Just saw that on Stealth's site :thumb: Thanks.. I guess I'm starting to lean towards getting the CTS, but I still really like the looks of the pillar gauges.. Just seems more economical to get a CTS and be able to monitor a lot more...
 

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You can do the CS too, the only difference being it's not a touchscreen
 

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Another CHEAP option for EGR delete is 35mm freeze plugs, remove cooler, pound them into both sides, throw on a weld for extra security if desired, re-install cooler. Just make sure you get a new lenght of heater hose and clamps, that OEM stub piece and clamps are a joke. I bought my delete on Ebay for $125 and made sure the coolant re-route tube and EGR cap were welded together. Oh yeah, expect 12~16 hrs to delete EGR cooler. Oh yeah, don't sweat the EGR valve, the EGR cooler is the problem, I left mine in and hooked up, no issues.

What Edge, Scan Guage and Bully Dog Watch Dog don't tell you up front is that they DO NOT include an EGT probe. Cha-ching! I just bought a 2 5/8" Auto Meter EGT for $145 from Summit Racing, WITH a probe. The 2 1/16" will fit in pillar pod. Anyway, Edge wants $100 for non expandable EGT probe, $130 for expandable (if you want a back up camera or the other things a CTS can do. Bully Dog wants $150 for an EGT probe that can monitor 2 EGT sources (but they only give you supplies for one). I figure with the EGT gauge on the dash, it will free up a spot on whatever OBD II monitor I choose.

I don't need all of the 1/4 mile timers, mileage coaches (I'm on 35s what mileage!?!), etc these things offer, therefore, I'm thinking at a buck fifty, a Scan Gauge II is going into my truck.
 

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Another CHEAP option for EGR delete is 35mm freeze plugs, remove cooler, pound them into both sides, throw on a weld for extra security if desired, re-install cooler. Just make sure you get a new lenght of heater hose and clamps, that OEM stub piece and clamps are a joke. I bought my delete on Ebay for $125 and made sure the coolant re-route tube and EGR cap were welded together. Oh yeah, expect 12~16 hrs to delete EGR cooler. Oh yeah, don't sweat the EGR valve, the EGR cooler is the problem, I left mine in and hooked up, no issues.

What Edge, Scan Guage and Bully Dog Watch Dog don't tell you up front is that they DO NOT include an EGT probe. Cha-ching! I just bought a 2 5/8" Auto Meter EGT for $145 from Summit Racing, WITH a probe. The 2 1/16" will fit in pillar pod. Anyway, Edge wants $100 for non expandable EGT probe, $130 for expandable (if you want a back up camera or the other things a CTS can do. Bully Dog wants $150 for an EGT probe that can monitor 2 EGT sources (but they only give you supplies for one). I figure with the EGT gauge on the dash, it will free up a spot on whatever OBD II monitor I choose.

I don't need all of the 1/4 mile timers, mileage coaches (I'm on 35s what mileage!?!), etc these things offer, therefore, I'm thinking at a buck fifty, a Scan Gauge II is going into my truck.
Yeah, I've looked at all that this morning. I like what all it monitors out of the box, but it does get very pricey to start monitoring the other stuff. I'm not overly concerned with the mileage either, I figure that by hand when I fill up. Still not sold one way or the other..
 

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Oh yeah, l wasn't impressed with leveling kits, especially the add-a-leaf from Rough Country that I had, it wore against the main leafs in a bad way. Point is, 285s on an 8 (or 10 like I did) fit nice without lifting. 35s, just get a 4~6 inch lift and some 10" wheels. It's easier. Resist the Dark Side, don't stack blocks. I don't like blocks, but if you're going to use them be smart and use a solid ONE PIECE block for your lift. I've seen stacked blocks spit out, it does all kinds of cool stuff to fix later.
 

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Oh yeah, l wasn't impressed with leveling kits, especially the add-a-leaf from Rough Country that I had, it wore against the main leafs in a bad way. Point is, 285s on an 8 (or 10 like I did) fit nice without lifting. 35s, just get a 4~6 inch lift and some 10" wheels. It's easier. Resist the Dark Side, don't stack blocks. I don't like blocks, but if you're going to use them be smart and use a solid ONE PIECE block for your lift. I've seen stacked blocks spit out, it does all kinds of cool stuff to fix later.
I planned on getting the complete spring pack with shocks from rough country vs. the add a leaf. I think my suspension is starting to go in the front anyways so I was going to replace it all and through an adjustable track bar and steering stabalizer while I'm at it. It was all in all like 5-600.. Pricey, but would feel safer with that vs an add a leaf...
 

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The advantage to the scangauge2 is the vast amount of information it can get from the truck. It can monitor alot of the existing sensors.
You would need those pillar gauges and some scanning software to get what that little thing can do. Scangauge costs about $165, that is only the cost of just one gauge.
You should have a fuel pressure gauge (need to add since there is no fuel pressure sensor on the truck), and if you want to fill out your pillar set, a pyrometer and a boost gauge.
NYC ... do you have the scangauge setup in your truck? I'm looking at maybe even running this with some pillar or column gauges, but not sure where I would mount it. I've seen the blendmount that goes above the rearview mirror, but can you see that during the day? Does anyone have input on a good place to mount it and still be able to put analog gauges later?
 

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Found this deal... EDGE 2011 HOLIDAY PROMOTION ... free dash pod for the insight or other edge products purchased Dec 1, 2011 - Jan 5, 2012. I might be very tempted to buy an insight CTS from one of the dealers of they will back date the reciept? :rofl:
 

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I planned on getting the complete spring pack with shocks from rough country vs. the add a leaf. I think my suspension is starting to go in the front anyways so I was going to replace it all and through an adjustable track bar and steering stabalizer while I'm at it. It was all in all like 5-600.. Pricey, but would feel safer with that vs an add a leaf...
I've run 14.5X34.5 Toyos and 315/75-16 BFGs on mine WITHOUT a stabilizer and it tracks fine. If you're wandering, it could be ball joints and/or tie rod ends. Unless you're going over 6" of lift, an adjustable track bar isn't necessary. Besides, those things have a MONSTER torque on the axle end. Any decent 4" or taller lift will have a track bar relocation.

I would advise against upgrading to nitrogen shocks, I did and mine rides STIFF. Add a leaf/OEM shocks, not too bad off road, great on road. Add a leaf and nitrogen shocks, great off road, STIFF on road. Not long after I dumped the add a leaf all together and got a real lift.
 

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ive got the CTS and wouldnt trade it for anything. great peice and it can monitor everything! fuel pressure too if you buy the extra stuff to do it! if you do the egr cooler or delete your dumb not to do the oil cooler while its right there! but check the delta first to see what it is. if its 8* or more id change that sucker! gauges are nice my little bro has the 4 pillar gauge but he keeps kicking himself in the butt because of what i can monitor vs him for almost the same price. plus the cts you can do custom backgrounds and what not. so put a pic of the wife on there so she is happy and you can order more stuff later after she sees that you put her pic on the background of the cts!
 

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There is no comparison between an Insight and stand alone gauges. And I'd rather spend the money for the Insight. Actually I run an old original Insight with 3 add'l stand alone gauges.



 

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I really like the insight the more I look at them.. like being able to keep the oh sh!t bar and the amount of things it monitors. They are 399 with free next day air shipping so I'm thinking I might get one soon. I'm going to run it basic for now and get the expandable features layer.
 

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I'll add in that I love my CTS as well, looking forward to getting the pyro installed this spring, otherwise it's been a great addition to my truck. Very happy I bought it, even if it wasn't the cheapest. I would certainly do it again.
 
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