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Should you delete 2017+ Powerstrokes???

Valid Reasons for Deleting 2017+ Powerstrokes???

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Hey folks,

So I have owned the 7.3, 6.0 and now a 2017 6.7L with 37,000 miles. We all know all the benefits to a full delete on the 6.0s, 6.4s and early 6.7s.

So the poll question is, should you delete 2017+ 6.7l Powerstrokes or not? If you vote, please share your perspective and hopefully real-life experience with this motor.

Like most, after purchasing the 2017, I immediately just ASSUMED a full delete would be needed to ensure long-term reliability. However, after researching the topic and looking at all of Ford's improvements in this newest 6.7l generation I have come to the conclusion that a delete is simply unnecessary. I am not seeing reliability issues related directly to the emissions on these trucks. So deletes, especially for low mile trucks (under 100k), seem to be more "fad" than a choice supported with evidence. Appears to me, that many guys/gals are simply making assumptions on the benefits due to prior year emission related issues (certainly for pre-2015 powerstrokes).

While I am no tree hugger, I also think retaining the emissions is the responsible thing to do for our environment, especially if the performance benefits are small or unproven and not quantified. Not sure if there is enough data available from 2017+ deleted truck owners at this point. I also use my truck strictly for heavy towing (15-25k loads), not for show boating, so my perspective may be different. I do plan on having over 300,000 miles on this truck with 10+ years of ownership. So if a performance mod will significantly improve engine life and reliability I want to do it. As such, my 1st mod was a Amsoil dual bypass oil filter system.

But I wanted to get people's perspective on this? I assume this is a highly debatable topic. It would be superb to hear opinions from professional diesel mechanics with years of experience on the newer 6.7s?
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You may want to seek out transport drivers. i.e. those who have 400k plus miles on a bunch of 2014 dodge 3500s, and 2015+ 6.7Ls. Personally the DPFs do more harm than good. The material takes such a drastic extraction process it cannot be mined in the U.S. for crying out loud. But were ok to tear up other countries and transport it on coal/diesel burnign ships across the ocean, then diesel trucks to the manufactures to make our "cleaner trucks" make us feel better. It puts immense wear to over fuel and burn the built up material in the dpf. I.E. using more fuel, wearing out the engine faster vs just letting the truck burn its needed amount.

case in point. The state of Washington removed their emissions test program Jan 2020 because a study they conducted from 1982 til now show it didn't do squat for their air quality. The modern vehicles are already burning at near peak efficiency to help curb whatever pollution they put out. Im not extremist tree hugger but I recycle in the right bins, don't pour my oil in the dirt, I fix my oil leaks, and maintain my vehicles. This gets rather political the further it goes but only you can decide whether its worth deleting or not. There are some strong arguments for both sides but I feel keeping a vehicle on the road longer vs buying a new vehicle every few yrs saves more resources than an expensive DPF system on a mostly plastic truck.

You could disassemble my 1999 7.3l and a 2017 6.7l It took way more resources and had 10x the environmental impact to build and use a 6.7l then the earlier trucks. Im not hear to say don't buy a new truck its your money but delete vs don't delete its based on whether your state requires it for dmv registration/inspection and personal preference.
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