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I've called numerous dealers with recommendation from people on here that they do head studs.... Spoke with the proper people that were recommended to me to talk to. and ALL have told me they recently no longer do head stud installation as ford will now not allow it. I then proceeded to call every Dealer in San Diego to Los Angeles and they all said no. Lists includes: Kearny Mesa, Mossy, Drew, Fuller, El Cajon, Perry, Encinitas, Homor Heller, Ken Grody, North County, Santa Margarita, Tuttle Click, Sunrise in Fontana, Fritts, and Raceway... THEY ALL SAID NO!

Here is the reason why: Ford has a procedure for the head gaskets which don't involve pulling the cab off or removing the engine. Both save time and money. In order to do head studs I was told the labor is more extensive. Ford dealers are now no longer doing it because when a truck comes to the shop wanting head gaskets replaced and they already have head studs, ford will not pay for the extra labor and cost to have them done again. Ford has RECENTLY made a strict policy saying they won't warranty work with head studs.

What I was told the only way I could have head studs installed would be if I personally knew a tech who would not comply with ford's rules and would be willing to do the labor either for a friend or with a paid compensation. With that being they could lose their job on their own accord. From the techs I spoke to, they all sounded unwilling to lose their job with compensation $$.

I received PM's regarding certain dealers from members in this forum and spoke with the people who they knew, and they told me sorry they no longer do them.

So if anyone in Southern California who now wants head studs to be installed through warranty, I hope you have a buddy diesel tech who will do it for you. For those who have told me otherwise and state on here they Ford does warranty head stud installation, give them a call and ask. I'm guessing california dealers and techs are more unwilling to go against fords policies. Sounds to me the small town dealers are more opt to performing this procedure to its customers.
 

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Well drive cross country to NC and buddy of mine who's a diesel tech at the dealership here in town will do them for you. He put mine in for $500, plus materials. You'd pay a little more, but not much...
 

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Well drive cross country to NC and buddy of mine who's a diesel tech at the dealership here in town will do them for you. He put mine in for $500, plus materials. You'd pay a little more, but not much...
how much would he charge if i didnt need it done? just to install studs if you know what i mean. the dealership wouldnt put them in for me either.
 

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Well, that was my situation. I didn't need it done, just wanted to do some preventative maintenance. It was a side job he did for me on one of the weekends he was off at the dealership. On the days he's off he's allowed to use his bay to do stuff like that. As for price I'm not sure, I think he charges 35 or 40 bucks an hour, I'd have to ask...
 

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No Ford dealer was ever allowed to put in studs. It has always been done on the down low, but I'm sure if they are cracking down that the people posting that they got their dealer to put them in might have something to do with it? It is bs about having to pull the engine or cab to do studs, they can be installed without either.
 

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No Ford dealer was ever allowed to put in studs. It has always been done on the down low, but I'm sure if they are cracking down that the people posting that they got their dealer to put them in might have something to do with it?
This is correct.

Dealers were never allowed to do studs under warranty. If caught the tech always risked loosing their job and the dealers risked a very heavy fine. Some dealers take the chance. Some dont
 

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The one around here that did them hasnt for a few months now thanks to managment crackin down on them and i was just gettin ready to have mine put in :(
 

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Well, that was my situation. I didn't need it done, just wanted to do some preventative maintenance. It was a side job he did for me on one of the weekends he was off at the dealership. On the days he's off he's allowed to use his bay to do stuff like that. As for price I'm not sure, I think he charges 35 or 40 bucks an hour, I'd have to ask...
yea ask him and let me know, i could take a vacation down there for a few says, i live in ohio so it would be worth the drive. you can just pm me if you want. thanks man:thumb:
 

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I've called numerous dealers with recommendation from people on here that they do head studs.... Spoke with the proper people that were recommended to me to talk to. and ALL have told me they recently no longer do head stud installation as ford will now not allow it. I then proceeded to call every Dealer in San Diego to Los Angeles and they all said no. Lists includes: Kearny Mesa, Mossy, Drew, Fuller, El Cajon, Perry, Encinitas, Homor Heller, Ken Grody, North County, Santa Margarita, Tuttle Click, Sunrise in Fontana, Fritts, and Raceway... THEY ALL SAID NO!

Here is the reason why: Ford has a procedure for the head gaskets which don't involve pulling the cab off or removing the engine. Both save time and money. In order to do head studs I was told the labor is more extensive. Ford dealers are now no longer doing it because when a truck comes to the shop wanting head gaskets replaced and they already have head studs, ford will not pay for the extra labor and cost to have them done again. Ford has RECENTLY made a strict policy saying they won't warranty work with head studs.

What I was told the only way I could have head studs installed would be if I personally knew a tech who would not comply with ford's rules and would be willing to do the labor either for a friend or with a paid compensation. With that being they could lose their job on their own accord. From the techs I spoke to, they all sounded unwilling to lose their job with compensation $$.

I received PM's regarding certain dealers from members in this forum and spoke with the people who they knew, and they told me sorry they no longer do them.

So if anyone in Southern California who now wants head studs to be installed through warranty, I hope you have a buddy diesel tech who will do it for you. For those who have told me otherwise and state on here they Ford does warranty head stud installation, give them a call and ask. I'm guessing california dealers and techs are more unwilling to go against fords policies. Sounds to me the small town dealers are more opt to performing this procedure to its customers.
Not to sound like a jerk, but did you really expect a tech to admit to someone he didn't know over the phone that he was willing to break his employers rules? You would have better luck if you took the person who referred them to you with you when you went to the dealership and asked in person.
 

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It still comes down to who you know. I got mine done "under warranty" because I know the tech. Ford see's that I had a typical 6.0 head gasket fix, the tech gets paid for the job plus some side money and everyone is happy. Cost me 150 bucks for everything (not including the studs).
 

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I do not really see why Ford would stop allowing studs, because it was a minor add on to doing a headgasket job and it's not like they were paying for ARPs out of their own pocket.

And I would like to see their new cab-on head gasket job to see what exactly they do.
 

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I went to two dealerships in town, including the one my truck is at, physically walked back and asked the TWO diesel techs in back, and offered money to them at both dealerships. Both refused. After that, I contacted 4 people that were referred to by diesel companies on this website... spoke to the exact people they said would do the head studs. Told them who referred me to them... and they said no. That makes 6 different locations in which I either physically asked the techs, or spoke to people who I was referred to by people i'm guessing were friends on this website. They all said no... I then just picked up the phone and called everyone else. When I spoke to those who seemed to understand head stud installation that were recommended to me, they made note of those who USED to do it in town, but no longer do it.
 

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I spoke with the diesel techs before I talked to any service managers. The only managers I spoke with were those who have done the stud installation in the past and knew the people who referred me to them. They said sorry they can't do it anymore. As if they used to be able to get away with it, but now they can't.

It is people going to a dealer getting them put in, and going to another dealer that doesn't do the work. That work gets followed back and ford gets in trouble and so do the technicians. I would think diesel techs are putting a lot at stake putting these head studs in. I would be so surprised if anyone could find any dealer to do this installation. If it was my job, I wouldn't either unless it was for a friend.
 

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I do not really see why Ford would stop allowing studs, because it was a minor add on to doing a headgasket job and it's not like they were paying for ARPs out of their own pocket.

And I would like to see their new cab-on head gasket job to see what exactly they do.

If you have access to alldata then you can see exactly how its done. I did the head gasket job myself and it was no different then doing head gaskets in any other car. Check out my write up.
http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/6-0l-performance-parts-discussion/100840-head-gasket-stud-install.html
 

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So yall are saying Ford did the stud install without the head gasket being blown? If this is true I would like to find some one Down south, Texas or Louisiana.. My truck still has 15k of warranty left.. Please let me know
 

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I'M not gonna give names but i have a friend in tucson that can help you out. just p.m me and i'll tell you more.:thumb:
 

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.. And I would like to see their new cab-on head gasket job to see what exactly they do.


I would also like to see it. I have not heard of it before.
 

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Sometimes when people communicate they exude a certain amount of skepticism/suspicion and for this reason the door of opportunity will slam shut in their face............................I'm just saying.
 

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Can a specialty shop honor that warranty? If not, how much to have it done out-of-pocket?
 
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