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Trying to determine which tuner to go with going to upgrade injectors and fuel system soon just trying to figure out what parts to get
 

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Hydra, no question.
 

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PHP Hydra and I'm running the standard tunes that come from them, you can buy custom tuning from PHP or others but I'm completely happy with the tunes they have.
 

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Custom tuned TS 6 position chip.
what size of injectors?
truck use?
besides fuel system, what other upgrades?
hp?
Trans?

a few important details, not all tuners are the same.
 

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I'm also thinking of getting a new tuner for the truck I just purchased. (2001 F250) It has an Superchips tuner on it and I don't like it at all. I had a Tony Wildman tuner on the last 7.3. (the one in the avatar on the left) It was a good tuner but the throttle response went from 0-100 percent in 1" of travel. It made the go-pedal so touchy that I would run it on stock most of the time so I didn't eat my rear tires off.
I'd like to find a tuner that is more drivable and often wondered if the Hydra the same way as the Tony Wildman tuner?
 

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PHP library is fantastic. I ran PHP tunes before i got my injectors. I absolutely love those tunes. Shifting was IMO great for towing, Street tune didn't smoke, and the race tune was all out, all while being safe for my PMR's.
 

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PHP tunes are very driver friendly and won't feel like your old wildman tunes. My current modified GH tunes use the entire length of the pedal (not sure if they are supposed to be like that but they are) Not all of my GH tunes behave this way but a couple of them do.

I have PHP, GH, 1023, SDK, Beans/no limit, powerstruck tunes and all behave a little differently. I also have modified PHP tunes from yrs ago and access to the current modified library, current PHP tunes are more mellow. My beans and powerstruck tunes are also from years ago; where my 1023, SDK, GH tunes are recent.

If you are sticking with stock injectors, just get a hydra and run the PHP tunes from the library
 

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PHP tunes are very driver friendly and won't feel like your old wildman tunes. My current modified GH tunes use the entire length of the pedal (not sure if they are supposed to be like that but they are) Not all of my GH tunes behave this way but a couple of them do.

I have PHP, GH, 1023, SDK, Beans/no limit, powerstruck tunes and all behave a little differently. I also have modified PHP tunes from yrs ago and access to the current modified library, current PHP tunes are more mellow. My beans and powerstruck tunes are also from years ago; where my 1023, SDK, GH tunes are recent.

If you are sticking with stock injectors, just get a hydra and run the PHP tunes from the library
Thanks for the advice, that's what I needed to know. Also, thanks to White Buffalo 7.3, what he said about the street tune not smoking was a help as well. I've often wondered if anyone made a decent tune that didn't plume smoke like a freight train. I'm not a tree hugger, but the soot is a pain to clean off the truck and trailer, and I'm sure the horses didn't appreciate it.

To the OP; my apologies to you, I didn't mean to hijack your thread, however, I thought my questions may help you as well.
 

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Trying to determine which tuner to go with going to upgrade injectors and fuel system soon just trying to figure out what parts to get
This is the best on the market for the 7.3L platform, especially if you want to go with larger injectors. I have plenty on the shelf

https://cncfab.us/i-30498022-php-hydra-chip-php-hydra.html

What size of injectors? Mainly so I have an idea of what else to recommend. You dont need up upgrade your whole fuel system if you stay with 160/30 or smaller injectors. 180cc it is hit or miss that a factory pump will supply enough fuel for them. Some dont have issues, others cant keep up.
 

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Thanks for the advice, that's what I needed to know. Also, thanks to White Buffalo 7.3, what he said about the street tune not smoking was a help as well. I've often wondered if anyone made a decent tune that didn't plume smoke like a freight train. I'm not a tree hugger, but the soot is a pain to clean off the truck and trailer, and I'm sure the horses didn't appreciate it.

To the OP; my apologies to you, I didn't mean to hijack your thread, however, I thought my questions may help you as well.
Can i ask why you got another 7.3? work truck? Plow truck?
 

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Can i ask why you got another 7.3? work truck? Plow truck?
Neither, I bought it because the 7.3 is an anvil that one can pound on all day long and it makes no difference to it. I've owned each edition of the Powerstroke engines, and have found that the 7.3, while antiquated by todays standards is just easy to live with. My 2017 6.7 King Ranch had every bell and whistle available, but the old girl still makes me smile every time I start her.
I should add that I found a 2001 Platinum Edition in mint condition with 95,000 miles. I sold the white truck in my Avatar.
 

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Well i can understand that. My next truck is either going to be a Super charged F-150 or a deleted 6.7. Haven't gotten to the next step but my 7.3 is currently for sale. I will be out of a truck period for the next couple months. just bought an old 2002 Hyundai elantra 5 spd. Hopefully my gum and duct tape hold it together for a few months :)
 

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Well i can understand that. My next truck is either going to be a Super charged F-150 or a deleted 6.7. Haven't gotten to the next step but my 7.3 is currently for sale. I will be out of a truck period for the next couple months. just bought an old 2002 Hyundai elantra 5 spd. Hopefully my gum and duct tape hold it together for a few months :)
The high performance F150's are a lot of fun to drive. I ended up with a Raptor by default. I ordered it for my wife as she always wanted one. She had Ovarian Cancer and unfortunately died four days after it came in. (July 2) She never got to ride in it, but she sure did smile when she saw it.
I've had two 6.7s. They were both stock and were nice trucks. My nephew has a deleted 2014 6.7 with 175,000 trouble free miles on it. (deleted at 10,000 miles) I don't think you'll go wrong with one of them.
 

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PHP tunes are very driver friendly and won't feel like your old wildman tunes. My current modified GH tunes use the entire length of the pedal (not sure if they are supposed to be like that but they are) Not all of my GH tunes behave this way but a couple of them do.

I have PHP, GH, 1023, SDK, Beans/no limit, powerstruck tunes and all behave a little differently. I also have modified PHP tunes from yrs ago and access to the current modified library, current PHP tunes are more mellow. My beans and powerstruck tunes are also from years ago; where my 1023, SDK, GH tunes are recent.

If you are sticking with stock injectors, just get a hydra and run the PHP tunes from the library
Thanks for the advice, that's what I needed to know. Also, thanks to White Buffalo 7.3, what he said about the street tune not smoking was a help as well. I've often wondered if anyone made a decent tune that didn't plume smoke like a freight train. I'm not a tree hugger, but the soot is a pain to clean off the truck and trailer, and I'm sure the horses didn't appreciate it.

To the OP; my apologies to you, I didn't mean to hijack your thread, however, I thought my questions may help you as well.
I just installed a PHP Hydra on my 02 7.3, which has brand new stock injectors. I get black smoke in just about every tune when I get into it a bit. What did I do wrong?
 
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