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Ok let me start by saying that I DO NOT WANT AIR BAGS. Ive got an 00 F250 that I use around the farm, to move livestock, and haul horses. Its also my DD

However our big trailer is Heavy, its a 4horse with living qtrs, I have pulled the trailer all over the country , but im considering some version of helper springs.

Does anyone have any experience with the Timbren Helpers? Im really leaning towards something like the Hellwig helper springs.

Anyone have any thoughts?

Jim
 

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i had timbrens on a 06 F 250, they helped when pulling my fifth wheel. In the end i traded for a 07 F 350 DRW, you can never have too BIG a truck:woot:
 

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What do you have against air bags?

I ask because today's sure bags are quite a bit better then yesterdays. They've come a long way and are highly recommended now a days. Even the self leveling versions are allot better.

Just curious.

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Ok let me start by saying that I DO NOT WANT AIR BAGS. Ive got an 00 F250 that I use around the farm, to move livestock, and haul horses. Its also my DD

However our big trailer is Heavy, its a 4horse with living qtrs, I have pulled the trailer all over the country , but im considering some version of helper springs.

Does anyone have any experience with the Timbren Helpers? Im really leaning towards something like the Hellwig helper springs.

Anyone have any thoughts?

Jim
If you have the factory helper springs already, you can double them up. I did that, and still kept my air bags. Then, after getting tired of my Lance camper "floating" on the bags, and considering the finger-nail deep cracks in them after only 2 years, I tossed them in the trash and ordered an additional set of helper springs from Hellwig. These lay over (and bolt to) the OEM helper springs, but have a steeper arch, and two leaves per side. So I know have the main spring pack plus a "quad" pack of helper springs on each side. Then, to be able to fine tune the engagement point (and amount of droop), I also use a set of Torklift Stable Loads. Here is a link to some photos of my setup from another thread I started in 2011, and then updated in 2012. http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/suspension-steering/216431-7-000-lb-coil-springs-dual-rear-helper-leafs-nice.html

P.S. - The Lance 845 in the photos weighs about 3,500LB when ready to camp.
 

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What do you have against air bags?

I ask because today's sure bags are quite a bit better then yesterdays. They've come a long way and are highly recommended now a days. Even the self leveling versions are allot better.

Just curious

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the truck had a set of bags on it when I got it, and while they were fine for leveling the load they left something to be desired after banging up and down gravel roads hunting and running dogs.

When they started to crack I pitched them in the corner of the barn. Ive had a couple of buddies who have had similar experiences with their airbags starting to crack and Im just not a fan of them.

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I put stock dually rear leafs on my truck, original helper spring was retained. My stockers had a snapped leaf on each side. They jacked the back end up a couple inches. The truck tows daily and never looks like its squatting. Its hard to tell from my sig pic because its in the sand. When the trailer is off it looks awesome in IMO, I cant stand the stock wheel "leveled" look.
 

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I have the Timbren Helpers, on my truck and don't care that much for them.
I will swap you for your airbags, if both will enterchange. I think I can buy
new bags for yours.
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Doug,

What do you not like about the Timbrens? I have been looking at them as well. Most people seem to prefer the air bags here, but no one has really said why the micro-cell urethane helpers are undesirable.

I'm just trying to feed my brain here.

-David
 

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David, my HitchHiker is about 3500 LB on the hitch and the Timbrens don't give it
much bounce room.
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OK. I guess I see what you're saying. I've just heard a lot about bags feeling tipsy at times too. I've seen some overload extended bump stops that come down further and are supposed to eliminate that. May have to just play with it and see what works.
 

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sounds like the roasmaster are just what you are looking for. They are not going to change ride quality when empty. they help with side to side motion. they are also increase load capacity by 50%.
 

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sounds like the roasmaster are just what you are looking for. They are not going to change ride quality when empty. they help with side to side motion. they are also increase load capacity by 50%.
Did you get that off the website?
They won't increase your GVWR because that is set no matter what. Aftermarket parts do not change that. They may allow you to load 50% more weight in the bed and maintain the same ride height, but that's it.
 
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