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So I bought a travel trailer this weekend (31 ft that is 8K lbs)

I know I am going to not be happy with the truck going over the pass the way it site now (stock with K&N intake) so I am going to order a MBRP 4" turbo back (no muffler) exhaust and a programmer or chip of some sort.

The reason I am in this section vs the normal area is I want feedback on towing up hills not just flat.

Reading around it appears that these are two popular options:

6 Position Customized Switchable Chip, Ford (1999-03) 7.3L Power Stroke

Power Hungry Performance - Phoenix™ Chip

Are these both ideal especially for heavy towing up our passes? I will do an EGT gauge when I do the exhaust.

Don't want to spend a ton but want something that works more than I want something that is cheap.

Thank you!

truck is a 2001 4x4 f-350 35" tires with 150K miles.
 

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gauges are a must. more important than the chip id say.
As far as a chip, go with the PHP hydra.

Even stock, your truck will pull that trailer just fine through the pass
 

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gauges are a must. more important than the chip id say.
As far as a chip, go with the PHP hydra.

Even stock, your truck will pull that trailer just fine through the pass
Thanks! ISSpro is a good customer of mine so I will be using their stuff :)

I will order the 1600 degree gauge, tranny temp, and boost gauge I guess.

Thank you! My truck feels like a dog even with a few yards of bark in it so Im curious to see what it feels like with 8K lbs in tow lol
 

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sure its running in tip top shape? no boost leaks? my buddy hauls a 40' fifth wheel all over the states with his bone stock 7.3. slow going, but hauls no problems. You shouldnt even feel the bark back there.

regardless when you get gauges youll be able to see what the truck is doing, and the tunes will certainly wake it up. Good luck
 

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sure its running in tip top shape? no boost leaks? my buddy hauls a 40' fifth wheel all over the states with his bone stock 7.3. slow going, but hauls no problems. You shouldnt even feel the bark back there.

regardless when you get gauges youll be able to see what the truck is doing, and the tunes will certainly wake it up. Good luck
I think its running fine but yes gauges will help me tell. I should say the only time I noticed the bark was when I had 2+ very wet yards going up a very long steep hill and it was not like the truck struggled, I just noticed it a bit. I pick the trailer up today and will just tow it home until I get the gauges. I guess the first hill I see I will know of something is wrong :)

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so the ISSPRO is spendy! Are they that much better than say an autometer for $100 less?
 

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8k is nothing. I used to have PHP tunes on my OBS and really liked them. I towed a 39 foot Teton trailer from Washington to southern Idaho last year. Trailer weighs 14k dry. Gabbage
Hill was just over 40 mph which I thought was great. Tune it get some gauges and it will be a different truck. More than performance though I will stress safety first. The best tow mod I have ever done is a quality brake controller. I use the Prodigy. Follow that with a set of airbags. Sorry getting of subject :)
 

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8k is nothing. I used to have PHP tunes on my OBS and really liked them. I towed a 39 foot Teton trailer from Washington to southern Idaho last year. Trailer weighs 14k dry. Gabbage
Hill was just over 40 mph which I thought was great. Tune it get some gauges and it will be a different truck. More than performance though I will stress safety first. The best tow mod I have ever done is a quality brake controller. I use the Prodigy. Follow that with a set of airbags. Sorry getting of subject :)
not out of subject at all! any and all towing tips are well received! I had very little sag today towing it (lust under 800 lbs tongue weight) But I do have the weight distribution bars.

I have a basic brake controller that came with the truck and it appears to work Okay but need more wheel time to tell. Is this the one you have? Amazon.com: Tekonsha Engineering 90885 Prodigy Brake Control: Automotive



Think first thing is gauges, tune and exhaust :) (in that order)
 

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Thats the one. They use a proportional system so that the harder your truck brakes more voltage is applied to the trailer brakes. This has saved my bacon more than once.

Air bags will level it out. More importantly you will maintain proper steering and get rid of the harsh bottoming out when going over expansion joints and bumps.
 
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I pull a torry pine 40' overall length,that weighs in a 17,300 lbs with a '04 dually with 6.0 totally stock.I pulled the trailer through the mountains many times,you have to run the hills as you would with a semi,you have to plan your ascends and descends as you would with a semi;I can and have pulled the fifth at 100 mph just to say that I can.The trailer has disc brakes all around and I can stop as fast as without the trailer, and I pulled the trailer with an '04 dodge 5.9, the ford has a easier time pulling, about 11mpg with both trucks,probably more if I drove the speed limit.
 

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I towed my 8,000# travel trailer for years, with a '99 F-250 with the 7.3. I spent a lot of time in the Rockies, the truck didn't care, it pulled great. What I do suggest is, if it doesn't have one, 'you might want to look into getting an exhaust brake... my truck has a BD brake and it made mountain driving much better.
 

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I towed my 8,000# travel trailer for years, with a '99 F-250 with the 7.3. I spent a lot of time in the Rockies, the truck didn't care, it pulled great. What I do suggest is, if it doesn't have one, 'you might want to look into getting an exhaust brake... my truck has a BD brake and it made mountain driving much better.
Yes thank you I have been looking at them and I think I will install one this fall when I replace my leaking turbo pedestal.
 

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If I were going to be pulling like that. First thing would be an exhaust brake and fix that turbo leak. Pulling is the easy part. Stopping is the hard part, plus way more important then pulling.:doh: If I take longer to pull a grade no big deal. But when you fall off the back side and can't stop. :bump::soapbox: that is where the pucker factor comes into play. Used to run all over those hills out there in a semi. And pulling was easy, going down was the rough part.:woot:
Buddy of has 2 of those trucks one has 350,000 miles and still going strong. He hauls a 4500 lb slide in Lance camper and pulls a pair of 1200 lb mules behind in his trailer loaded down with shoeing suff. And pulls like its not there. There both still stock also.:icon_ford:
Good luck and be safe.
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so the ISSPRO is spendy! Are they that much better than say an autometer for $100 less?
Yes the isspro's are worth the extra money. Built right here in Portland. Ive had them on my dodge and both my fords and wont run anything else. Also an exhaust brake from pac brake would be a great addition as well. Wish I had that option on my 6.4.
 

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If I were going to be pulling like that. First thing would be an exhaust brake and fix that turbo leak. Pulling is the easy part. Stopping is the hard part, plus way more important then pulling.:doh: If I take longer to pull a grade no big deal. But when you fall off the back side and can't stop. :bump::soapbox: that is where the pucker factor comes into play. Used to run all over those hills out there in a semi. And pulling was easy, going down was the rough part.:woot:
Buddy of has 2 of those trucks one has 350,000 miles and still going strong. He hauls a 4500 lb slide in Lance camper and pulls a pair of 1200 lb mules behind in his trailer loaded down with shoeing suff. And pulls like its not there. There both still stock also.:icon_ford:
Good luck and be safe.
Pete
The turbo is not leaking but the actuator is leaking a little oil... I will look into exhaust break sooner than later I guess but to be honest it stopped pretty damn well with the trailer breaks (I intentionally did a panic stop to see how the trailer and truck would react) but I guess going down a long pass is a different story.
 

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got any pictures?!?!
 
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