[FastCote]

Ok, Here is the start...

I picked of this bad boy today:

60 gallon compressor tank.

It is a little bigger than i planned. It needs to live in the bed of my truck under the bed cover. That gives my roughly 22 inches. My plan is to use the big 2" (I think it is 2") plug opening, elbow out to a 2" suction hose.

Questions:

1.) First of all, any tips on getting this plug out? I have drenched it in WD40, let is soak, then whacked it repeatedly with a mallot/pipe wrench. No dice.

2.) I may not have the room to orient the tank so that the plug (and 90 elbow) point down because of lack of head room. I will probably have to orient it with the hose coming out the side. What is the best way to design a poor-mans pickup tube inside that tank using that same 2" opening?

3.) I really don't have use for the legs or this motor mount. what are the chances I could cut these welds (below) off without buggering up the tank? I have a nice little air cutter/grinder. I am hoping to use it for this task.

 

[SCUFFY828]

and what is this for , or am i the only one that dont get it

 

[Cj Ford]

heat that plug up with a torch.. its thread sealed in there and is tight to boot.. as for the legs you can cut them off with a zip disk and it wont hurt the tank any

what are you building??? is that going to be a inbed fuel tank???

 

[kingchip]

Looks good. I've been thinking on this very thing. I was thinking about a 500 gallon propane tank. Only problem is the full weight factor. It will be permanently mounted on a trailer where my welder rides now. Are you going to use a refridgerator compressor, or just buy a vacuum pump? The problem is electricity. Inverter or 12V?

 

[HVAC SuperTech]

I think this is going to be his waste oil tote. Hes gonna suck it in with some sort of high powered sucker.....

Maybe you could use Monica Lewinsky, I heard shes a powerful sucker!

 

[choctaw]

I think this is going to be his waste oil tote. Hes gonna suck it in with some sort of high powered sucker.....

Maybe you could use Monica Lewinsky, I heard shes a powerful sucker!

You might have to toss her a cigar every now and then. :hehe:

 

[colberjs]

heat that plug up with a torch.. its thread sealed in there and is tight to boot.. as for the legs you can cut them off with a zip disk and it wont hurt the tank any

what are you building??? is that going to be a inbed fuel tank???

I think what he might be trying to say is to heat the metal AROUND the plug. The heat will make that metal expand allowing the plug more room for movement and loosening the thread sealant also. I've used this trick several times on different projects.

 

[rffpsvb]

ive heard of this before, drawing a vacuum to suck up the wast oil, but i think it was used w/ a air compressor, not a vacuum pump, not sure how that works, drawing a vacuum w/ air pressure, anybody??

 

[HVAC SuperTech]

you would have to prssureize the container the oil is in to push it into the container in the truck. Not that easy, IMO

 

[Cj Ford]

I think what he might be trying to say is to heat the metal AROUND the plug. The heat will make that metal expand allowing the plug more room for movement and loosening the thread sealant also. I've used this trick several times on different projects.

:thumb: you got it ... just like heating a manifold to get the stud out.. I'm not use to having to explain in detail Im more use to doing it rather then explaining ...lol

 

[brmpipes]

why cant you plum a fuel transfer pump into the tw0in bung on the tank.reverse the wires on the pump and it will suck the oil up the fuel hose,jusy dont put an nozzle on the hose.You could plug the hose after sucking to keep it from getting to messy.Then reverse the wires on the pump tp pump tank out when you get to where you want it.

 

[FastCote]

Wow, I thought i was the last person to hear about a super sucker tank but apparently not There are like 20 different threads that mention it over at the dieselstop forum. I am convinced this is the easiest, quickest and most efficient method of collection

The idea is to pull a vacuum on the tank and let the vacuum PULL the raw the oil in.

See the bottom of this page for details:
Murphy's Machines - Super Sucker Plans

Also, Dana Linscott offers free plans here:
Home

You can pull the vacuum at home and drive to the collection site with nothing but that tank and hose. It is wicked strong at pulling thick cold oil and very fast. I have heard quotes as fast as 3 GALLONS PER SECOND!

There are several different pump suggestions for pulling the vacuum:
1.) old fridge compressors
2.) AC or DC compressor motors (~ $200)
3.) Re-use and old compressor pump
4.) Air driven vacuum pump See this

I am going to start with #4 as it is pretty cheap ~$20. If it does not pull a good enough vacuum or takes too long I may buy one of Murphy's pumps (from the first link)

I am currently doing 5 gallon buckets only because i can get it strait out of the fryer. It would be much more convenient to pull up to a barrel and slurp up 50 or so gallons in a minute, drive home, put the compressor on the tank and pump it strait into my raw oil drum.

 

[nighthawk18]

i was going to build something similar but with a 55 gal drum. would a 55 gal. drum work as a super sucker tank cause i have lots of those or are the walls to thin and it will implode?

 

[Clay Henry]

i was going to build something similar but with a 55 gal drum. would a 55 gal. drum work as a super sucker tank cause i have lots of those or are the walls to thin and it will implode?

no, a little bit of vaccume will crush a 55 gallon barrel.

 

[nighthawk18]

thank you very much

 

[firemediceric]

If this link works, here's some pix of my Super Sucker. I may not be look pretty, but 120 gallons in 15 minutes is a beautiful thing!
EricandRobyn - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

 

[choctaw]

If this link works, here's some pix of my Super Sucker. I may not be look pretty, but 120 gallons in 15 minutes is a beautiful thing!
EricandRobyn - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

So what's the deal with Caesar's head?

 

[cj41foley]

My dads got a large propane tank mounted on a trailer that he uses a vacuum pump to suck vacuum in the tank then just goes to his oil tank at the restuarant and runs his hose over and cracks the valve open. It takes him about five muntes to suck up 100 gallons of oil . Works very well with a 2 inch hose.

 

[firemediceric]

So what's the deal with Caesar's head?

Since it's so off topic, I'll PM you about this.

I couldn't figure out how to link to just the Super Sucker pix, so you got everything.

 

[FastCote]

Dudes, HELP!!!

I can NOT get this plug out. I have tried all kinds of chemicals, Torch heat, both on the plug and around it, and some SERIOUS mechanical advantage.

The square part of the plug is (was) solid steal and I put so much torque on it that it sheared part off.

I spent the rest of the afternoon air cutting it flush with the hopes of drilling it out and using an easy out to finish it off. Now its a mess.


Those slots are from the air grinder wheel and they do NOT go all the way through the rest of the plug. My HOPES where that is was not that thick and i could cut it in half. - NO DICE.

The center hole has had an easy out in it and some more hellacious torque. STILL NO DICE.

The only thing i can think to do now is to go buy a sawsall or saber saw and follow the X cuts as close to the threads as i dare see if i can coax this thing out.

What other options do i have at this point?