SPE vs Confederate Diesel side by side review

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cfd_shop

Discussion Starter · Jun 3, 2013 (Edited)

CFD price 3199
SPE price 3000
CFD turbo options s363, s366 or efr which can all be purchased from any diesel supply house and we can provide replacement part number
SPE turbo options s363, s366 with SPE cut housings, these turbo's will have to be replaced by SPE if required
CFD exhaust includes headers and uppipes with 40% increased flow
SPE Uses new uppipes with the same restrictive factory manifolds
CFD kit has a new aluminum intake that replaces the factory intake
But the factory intake can still be used if the customer really wants too.
SPE just reuses the PLASTIC factory intake.
CFD has a custom pedestal and oil line kit.
SPE has a custom pedestal and oil line kit.
CFD kit has a custom 1/4 oil feed straight from the factory oil galley
SPE uses stock oil port off cam bearing which has been proven to be insufficient for an oil cooled turbo.
CFD has a lifetime piping warranty, 12 month turbo warranty, and 30 day money back guarantee.
SPE has a 90 day limited warranty.
CFD kit is in stock
SPE kit is 3 weeks away
Both kits can be installed with the factory emission system in place.

This comparison shows the added value you will get when buying a Confederate Diesel Turbo Upgrade.

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Tuscany

· #141 · Jun 6, 2013

I can see both sides of the argument about comparing a competitors product. But look at it this way. Ford, Chevy and Dodge all do this every time they come out with a new truck.

I could do this all day. Just because they are comparing products isn't a mark against their character. If they came out and said SPE's kit is a hunk of trash that they wouldn't let you pay them to put on a truck that would be a different story.

crazyradjohnny

· #142 · Jun 6, 2013

My point exactly. Granted it appears Confederate's reputation leads people to automatically assume the worst. But I think for the consumer, who doesn't work/live/breath in the diesel world these sorts of comparisons are good.

Tuscany

· #143 · Jun 6, 2013 (Edited by Moderator)

Fantom said:
That is true, but quality also needs to be compared. I've read through a couple of threads on another site. A shop's reputation has to come from somewhere.

But hey, I don't even own a 6.7 :thumb:

See I am not on the other forums, so I wouldn't know. I was only speaking on this thread about people complaining that they were comparing a competitors kit. Companies do this all the time and no one else b!tches about it. LOL I am not making claims that either kit is superior just making an observation within the thread.

cfd_shop

Discussion Starter · #144 · Jun 6, 2013

Fantom:
You have taken information from a forum where SPE did exactly what others said was in bad taste. They tell people not to buy others kit it is junk. When we posted on PSA we were deleted. I think finally my guys had enough and said what they thought.
If you look at the thread confederate diesel 6.7 review the moderators on that site state only negative information can be posted here about confederate diesel.
If you look there is no information there so we have to assume there is nothing negative.

In your statement before SPE has never had to fix a truck that we worked on.
SPE can chime in to this.

This is a review to provide quality information.
We have a quality product at a great price and we want to give educated customers the information to make a good decision about there product.

cfd_shop

Discussion Starter · #145 · Jun 6, 2013

mysticblu999 said:
RCD turbo set up

We really like this design!!
I bet this kit will work great
As soon as you have specs and price features post them up.

Fantom

· #146 · Jun 6, 2013

cfd_shop said:
Fantom:
You have taken information from a forum where SPE did exactly what others said was in bad taste. They tell people not to buy others kit it is junk. When we posted on PSA we were deleted. I think finally my guys had enough and said what they thought.
If you look at the thread confederate diesel 6.7 review the moderators on that site state only negative information can be posted here about confederate diesel.
If you look there is no information there so we have to assume there is nothing negative.

In your statement before SPE has never had to fix a truck that we worked on.
SPE can chime in to this.

This is a review to provide quality information.
We have a quality product at a great price and we want to give educated customers the information to make a good decision about there product.

I didn't find the thread after the fact, I read it as it happened. And what they said on the site was that no shop information can be given, if someone wants to talk about the single turbo that's fine, but didn't want and shop info given because you weren't a sponsor over there.

So the F550 where the turbo grenaded didn't go to SPE?

[email protected]

· #147 · Jun 6, 2013 (Edited by Moderator)

For critique here is a few more of our welds...

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[email protected]

· #148 · Jun 6, 2013

The F-550 that broke the turbine shaft did not go to SPE. But it did get repaired at our shop completely under warranty.

mysticblu999

· #149 · Jun 6, 2013

Didn't SPE post pics of said F550?

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cfd_shop

Discussion Starter · #150 · Jun 6, 2013

Fantom said:
I didn't find the thread after the fact, I read it as it happened. And what they said on the site was that no shop information can be given, if someone wants to talk about the single turbo that's fine, but didn't want and shop info given because you weren't a sponsor over there.

PowerStrokeArmy - View Single Post - Confederate 6.7 single turbo review

Or you can read this by a moderator or the other comments on the same page.
PSA has decided to delete CFD and the minute my guys went on there they were immediately treated with disrespect.
You are obviously mistaken, or just purposely telling NONTRUTH

cfd_shop

Discussion Starter · #151 · Jun 6, 2013

mysticblu999 said:
Didn't SPE post pics of said F550?

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Not that I could find.

crazyradjohnny

· #152 · Jun 6, 2013

Personally I still have a few SPE questions but it appears Alan said he was done with this thread....which is too bad.

Because I'd really like to hear their thinking on keeping the stock exhaust manifolds vs custom ones that it looks like everyone is doing. I'm not saying its wrong, just like to hear their ideas on it.

DirtBikePilot

· #153 · Jun 6, 2013

When I spoke with Amy at SPE she said they used as many stock components as possible because they wanted to keep the price down. It seems as though the honest answer is bacause they wanted to keep the profit margin high. And yes I am upset about it because I WAS going to get one of their kits. SPE is NOT going to get my buiseness. The more I think about how little their kit comes with and how much it costs, the madder I get.

I really want the others to hurry up so I can make a decision. Who is rcd?

crazyradjohnny

· #154 · Jun 6, 2013

@DirtBikePilot - RCD = River City Diesel.

crazyradjohnny

· #155 · Jun 6, 2013

Interesting SPE dropped their price it looks close to $1000....Plastic doesn't seem so bad now...lol

I still want a new manifold though

Dman115

· #156 · Jun 6, 2013

Anyone else notice how much SPE dropped their price? To me it seems like they wanted to make a boat load of money off people until everybody here called them out on a rediculous price...

Mr Powell

· #157 · Jun 6, 2013

Following market trims... It's not really a hard concept if you've been in any car related industry. Well in any industry...

When I first got my Porsche 6.5 years ago to make 550rwhp and 600rwhp MAX you were going to spend 15k-20k depending on what tuner. I made 666rwhp for less than 8k and word got out. Now for 10k you can make close to 700rwhp if you want to go balls out and run more boost than normal. Though 650rwhp is easy to do from vendors at that price point.

cfd_shop

Discussion Starter · #158 · Jun 6, 2013

crazyradjohnny said:
Interesting SPE dropped their price it looks close to $1000....Plastic doesn't seem so bad now...lol

I still want a new manifold though

we can sell just a manifold

Mr Powell

· #159 · Jun 6, 2013

If I were interested in modding a 6.7 to make big power I'd probably start a lot of work in our personal shop, but we've got a few other cars that make lots of power (and are actually fast). Turbo kits are simple if you have the time and a little bit of an idea of wtf you are doing. My truck is my DD not a race truck.

Plus if you guys want to go fast buy a damn 12V. My buddies been running mid 10s in a 100% street truck for 5 years, and his stock motor finally let go so he's got a nasty nasty setup being built. If you've been to the Houston DHRA stuff over the years it's the single cab silver Dodge 2500 (96 is the year model) owned by my buddy Mark.

And btw Plastic vs Metal??? I'm sure SPE knows exactly what it can hold. I made my 1040rwhp on E85 with a 100% plastic 997TT intake and T-pipe. Hell when learned we ran out of intake we were shoving upwards of 46-47psi through it. Had no troubles holding it together. No tie downs or anything special... Just saying...

alynnsnyder

· #160 · Jun 6, 2013 (Edited)

DirtBikePilot said:
When I spoke with Amy at SPE she said they used as many stock components as possible because they wanted to keep the price down. It seems as though the honest answer is bacause they wanted to keep the profit margin high. And yes I am upset about it because I WAS going to get one of their kits. SPE is NOT going to get my buiseness. The more I think about how little their kit comes with and how much it costs, the madder I get. I really want the others to hurry up so I can make a decision. Who is rcd?

This will be my only post.

#1 My name is Amy, not Alan.

#2 We kept the stock components not for a profit aspect. We kept them for those of you that wanted a "drop-in" turbo that actually fits where the factory turbo was. Also allowing you to retain any aftermarket intake you may have already purchased. We didn't short cut by making new intake manifolds to get the turbo to fit; however the soon available intercooler upgrade will allow you to change all of those items if chosen.

We spent TONS of R&D time & the profit margins are not very high. Our turbos have machined housings which costs money. We have specialty couplers, which costs money. We send you a new lower intake manifold, which costs money.

We will have a turbo kit soon that replaces factory components such as intake manifolds, all intercooler piping, etc. etc.

#3 We will NOT do a comparison here because we are not sponsors & we respect the rules of the forum & therefore will not try & sell you our kit on here.

#4 We dropped the kit $500 after we talked to our turbo distributor. The more you order, the cheaper things are. Why not pass the savings on!?! It's only fair right? Our kit is now $3000. The $1500 is the first half for those of you pre-ordering.

#5 Also, once again, my name is Amy, not Alan. :doh:

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