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Ford to end auto production in Australia in 2016 - Yahoo! Finance

SYDNEY (AP) — Ford Motor Co. said Thursday it will close its two Australian auto plants, ending production in the country in 2016, amid soaring manufacturing costs and plummeting sales.

The closure of the U.S. automaker's plants in the state of Victoria will mean the loss of 1,200 jobs and will transform the company into an import-only brand in Australia. Ford began making cars in Australia in 1925 and is the third largest auto manufacturer in the country.

"We understand the very real impact that this will have on our team," Ford Australia President Bob Graziano told reporters at the company's Melbourne plant. "We came to this conclusion only after thoroughly reviewing our business and exhausting all other alternatives."

Australia's stubbornly high dollar has put pressure on the country's auto manufacturers, making locally produced cars far more expensive than those made overseas. Last month, Ford's chief competitor, Holden, said it was cutting 500 jobs amid the high dollar and falling demand.

"The strength of the Australian dollar bears down on Australian manufacturing and it does make it a difficult environment for manufacturing to prosper," Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard said following Ford's announcement.

The closure comes despite 5.4 billion Australian dollars ($5.2 billion) of government financial support for the auto industry through to 2020. Last year, Gillard announced an AU$34 million subsidy for Ford. Australia has also subsidized General Motors Co., pledging nearly AU$275 million last year to guarantee GM continues to make cars in Australia for another decade through its subsidiary Holden Ltd.

Ford also released its annual financial report Thursday, which showed a loss of AU$141 million after tax for the 2012 financial year. That follows a loss of AU$290 million in 2011, and a total loss of AU$600 million over the past five years.
The end of an Era!

My grandfathers had Fords, My Father also - and myself - heck even my son has a Ford.

No more.

I can't support a company who won't manufacture here and employ my fellow Aussies.

I mean we Aussie taxpayers subsidized Ford to the tune of $54M last year and in turn they LOST $141M ????

This sucks and whoever at Ford made this decision needs to be sacked.

Whats almost 100 years worth of brand loyalty worth in a population of 23 Million?

Ford have lost any shred of respect they had left now - and done America no favors along with it.

It's not just that we taxpayers subsidize Ford - its that like good allies we send our young men ad women to fight and die in the US wars of occupation in Afghanistan & Iraq, and now Ford US dumps us like a steaming hot turd.

This decision will bite Ford in the azz in ways they have never imagined.

Things like tenders for supply of vehicles for govt (military) etc that require a certain %age local manufacture content - the Ford product won't qualify.

Nissan tried this shyte (ceasing all Ozzie manufacture) and their brand has NEVER recovered here.

Its not just about Price.... I know Ford US was the only manufacturer NOT to take the US Govt bailouts during the 2008 GFC, and that earned a lot of respect...

Now - it seems they are belt tightening, and WE will suffer as a result.

So be it.

No More Fords for this family - EVER!

Screw Ford!.

Cheers!
 

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So you only Buy things made in Australia ?

I tried that with Made in USA but it's not really practical

I mean we Aussie taxpayers subsidized Ford to the tune of $54M last year and in turn they LOST $141M ????
what should Ford do ? loose money and Make other countries pay more for their vehicles to compensate for your Economy ?
 

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Australias problem is they have a taste for Vehicles no other market wants.

I mean hell they still building the equivalent of the el camino for ****s sakes

i dont blame ford for pulling out. Its a huge loss for them
 

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Ford to end auto production in Australia in 2016 - Yahoo! Finance



The end of an Era!

My grandfathers had Fords, My Father also - and myself - heck even my son has a Ford.

No more.

I can't support a company who won't manufacture here and employ my fellow Aussies.

I mean we Aussie taxpayers subsidized Ford to the tune of $54M last year and in turn they LOST $141M ????

This sucks and whoever at Ford made this decision needs to be sacked.

Whats almost 100 years worth of brand loyalty worth in a population of 23 Million?

Ford have lost any shred of respect they had left now - and done America no favors along with it.

It's not just that we taxpayers subsidize Ford - its that like good allies we send our young men ad women to fight and die in the US wars of occupation in Afghanistan & Iraq, and now Ford US dumps us like a steaming hot turd.

This decision will bite Ford in the azz in ways they have never imagined.

Things like tenders for supply of vehicles for govt (military) etc that require a certain %age local manufacture content - the Ford product won't qualify.

Nissan tried this shyte (ceasing all Ozzie manufacture) and their brand has NEVER recovered here.

Its not just about Price.... I know Ford US was the only manufacturer NOT to take the US Govt bailouts during the 2008 GFC, and that earned a lot of respect...

Now - it seems they are belt tightening, and WE will suffer as a result.

So be it.

No More Fords for this family - EVER!

Screw Ford!.

Cheers!

soooooooooo what are you gonna buy now? cause far as I know gm and dodge are imported there.
 

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soooooooooo what are you gonna buy now? cause far as I know gm and dodge are imported there.
GM (Holden) has a plant or two there
 

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GM (Holden) has a plant or two there
I wonder if GM turns a profit there ? :dunno:

A

Australian Motor Industries

B

British Motor Corporation (Australia)

C

Chrysler Australia


F

Ford Motor Company of Australia

H

Holden

M

Mitsubishi Motors Australia


R

Rootes Australia

T

Tomcar
Toyota Australia
 

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Ohh FFS

Ohh FFS, my bog standard (non lariat) Used (60,000mile) 2004 F 250, purchased in Dec 2006 I paid $82500.00 for.

The equivalent vehicle stateside might have brought 20k tops.

If Ford can't make a profit selling trucks at that price they should get the frick out of auto manufacturing all together!

You all wait until it's Ford USA thats no longer manufacturing locally and employing your relatives friends family etc.

Ford forgets it has a societal responsibility, and that brand loyalty like it has built up, takes GENERATIONS to establish, and 5 minutes of CEO/Boardroom ****whittery to screw up!.

Thin edge of the wedge people, wait until this visits a town near you.

Don't come *****in to me for support then.

Screw Ford.
 

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How bout ya have your great economy over there bail them out


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Will they still import the falcon there or manufacture it somewheres else (hopefully here)?!?!?!

I'm a huge fan of the aussie falcon besides 4 doors but hey.
 

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No Mo FOMOCO

Far as anyone knows the V8 & Straight 6 , 4 door saloon otherwise known as the Ford Falcon is dead!

No more V8 racing.

Nuthing!

We will get the same ol crapola imports that every other country gets.

Its OK to say we will "import" cars to replace it.

Largely we WON'T - coz down here the steering wheels on the right hand side!.

So - unless FOMOCO want to start producing decent vehicles in RHD variants specifically to export to Oz.... we are screwed.

If we want to talk about the oz economy.... well our Dollar has sunk below parity with yours in the last few weeks... somewhere around 96cents or some such...

So if labor costs and manufacturing costs are too high in OUR country to be viable... one would reasonably have to suspect that the exact same argument could be trotted out by Ford USA to justify no more manufacturing in USA either.

I guess ya'll can look forward to your Chinese manufactured Mustangs! :rofl::rofl:

Good Fricken luck with that! Let us know how it works out for you - we have just learned a painful lesson about "dealing with the *****s".

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SECRET and highly sensitive blueprints outlining the layout of Australia's top spy agency's new headquarters have been stolen by Chinese hackers, the ABC says.

The documents contained details of the ASIO building's floor plans, communication cabling layouts, server locations and security systems, potentially putting the entire organisation at risk, Monday night's Four Corners program alleges. (etc - read the link)
Sneaky little slanty eyed batsurds.

This is the start of the end of the world as we know it - mark my words.

Don't gimme any shyte about the Chinese either, they own your country lock stock and barrel! :doh:

How do you spell FORD in Chinese anyway? CWAP! :laugh:
 

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I'm fairly certain that globalization is one of the worst things to happen to the globe. The US flourished as a closed economy, once Chinese crap started flooding the markets we went downhill. How can you expect ford to make RHD vehicles when Australia and the UK are the only back assward countries that drive on the other side?
The new free markets are in Asia, and these liberal idiots think it's a great advancement of "globalization". Regulate the hell out of ourselves until the companies leave and we have no jobs. Thanks Obama.


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I spent a few months in Australia back in 08. It was nearly a 1-1 exchange on currency but everything was 2-4 times more expensive than it is in the states, not just the trucks. I don't know if that is still the case but I suspect it would have something to do with the issue.
 

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I haven't been keeping up on prices of new trucks but I know that my brother (cummins fan) is in the process of buying a brand new fully loaded crew cab 4x4 6spd (manual) cummins 3500 for about $42,000. I don't think that ford can even come close to getting within 10 grand of this price.

in the late '90's this was the price of a new v8 f150 supercab 4x4

I think that the end of ford in America will be happening sooner than later
 

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I haven't been keeping up on prices of new trucks but I know that my brother (cummins fan) is in the process of buying a brand new fully loaded crew cab 4x4 6spd (manual) cummins 3500 for about $42,000. I don't think that ford can even come close to getting within 10 grand of this price.

in the late '90's this was the price of a new v8 f150 supercab 4x4

I think that the end of ford in America will be happening sooner than later

I tnink your off on that seeing how its been the best selling line of trucks for some 30+ years, dodge hasnt made a truck since the 80's
 

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It Would

It would make complete sense for us to convert to driving on the right hand side of the road and use left hand drive vehicles as you guys do!.

Sadly history saddled us with the UK system of Drive on the left with a RH drive vehicle.

I think the ONLY thing stopping us, would be the re training people with licenses AND of course modifying all the road signalling etc (turn arrows and so on).

It COULD be done - but that public cost would be huge (imagine converting the USA to RH drive vehicles and driving on the left hand side of the road)

It really is the only sensible thing to do... standardize across the globe.

We SHOULD do it... and to hell with the cost....

Yes the comment about everything costing 3 or 4 times the US cost is correct.

In today's day and age of electronics, where everything is fly by wire connected anyway - wouldn't you think that electronic power steering could be devised that, you buy a standard car and the steering wheel & instrumentation cluster, can be unplugged & re - plugged into its receptacle on the dash on either the left or right?

Same with controls pedals!

Anyone wants dual controls for teaching driving just buys the extra wheel and binnacle and pedals modules and snaps them in!

Bingo you have a car that can be manufactured and used anywhere in the world.

Plug n play!

There's a free zillion dollar idea, Ford - now run with it and become the worlds largest auto maker and keep making vehicles here in Oz damnit! :icon_ford:

Remember me with a 1c royalty per car, on the idea please! :thumb: :nod: :haha:

I dunno why we make things in life so fricken hard some times.

Our kids would invent a car with no controls - it would all run from your I phone, by texting as you drive! :laugh:

Stop the fricken world, I wanna get off!
 

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Things like this is why Ford Australia died
 

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True dat

True dat!

Everyone knows that a ute should have either a tray back (or a well body) and be able to carry at least 1 ton!

A tipping tray back would be even better!

A V8 powered ute with a tray back well body or even a dual cab with tray back or well body as an option would be a killer sales beast!

Ohh - look at that!



General Motors (Holden) Downunder- make one just like that here and here in Oz built by Aussies too!

Gee - not hard to see why GMH are going well while ford are failing fast!

Over here the Tradesman ute (Ford and General Motors Holden) are cultural icons no different to you guys driving F trucks. You don't screw with something that ain't broke.

All the generations of my family have had either GMH or Ford work utility vehicles (utes for short) and all served them well in their businesses as general & towing workhorses.

So who in their right mind comes up with a solid lid on the back so you can;t put any construction industry tools in it?

Meanwhile the Japanese provide?



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And Ford wonder why sales plummeted?

What the heck were their designers thinking?

The Japanese and GMH all managed to get it right - Ford were the ONLY ones who got it wrong! :mad:

It would be sad if it wasn't so bloody tragic!

Where the Japanese won out was, most tradesmen here (in the engineering and construction trades) buy their work ute, for holiday use withthe family as well, so dual cab and a tray back to put the big boys toys in - and a tow bar to pull a trailer as well, 4wd in case the work or holiday use requires off road traction, small turbo diesels engines for torque and open road legs while still frugal on fuel.

It is no wonder that Ford can't give their cars away here, they are so out of touch with what the market wants that its hard to believe they do any market research at all?.

With better management Ford Australia would be an eminently profitable stand alone business in Oz.

The problems not in the cost of production - the problem is in not supplying what the market wants - when someone else (Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, GMH) are all doing just that!

Heads at Ford need to roll - not the workforce who are loyal to a man.

The buck should both start and stop at the top, IMHO.
 

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Things like this is why Ford Australia died
There is nothing wrong with the falcon at all, it is a world class car that has won many awards (not so much the V8 cause its ****) but the Aussie made straight 6 especially in turbo form, look at how well the ba-bf series went, the problem is ford never advitised the falcon at all, look at how many commodores you see on the road compared to falcons of late, if ford actually tried to sell the falcon they could of, ask anyone if they have heard of the eco boost falcon or ecolpi, none cause it was never put out for people to know about and if ford aus actually exported the falcon and territory (another best selling aus car) things probably wouldn't be so bad, instead they want this one car plan for the globe, which means they will try replace the good ol rear drive falcon with the ****box front drive Taurus again ( big fail that was and will be again), but not much can be done about it now, ford has pretty much dug them selves a hole by getting rid of the falcon and it started when they stopped with the f-series here, loosing the falcon here would be like you guys loosing the f-series trucks all together
 
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