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Hey y'all, just got my 2011 lariat 250 about a week ago. Had to finally sell the 6.0 that's in my sig cause I had it for 7 years and loved it but it was time for a change. Man I couldn't be happier with this new motor and interior! I was wanting to put an isspro pyrometer in the A-pillar with a single mount but was told that I have to do an egr delete by 3 different shops to get the probe on the manifold as its up in the engine valley and there is no room. Is this in fact the only way to do it? I know the CPU has probes at the dpf filter but that won't give me an accurate reading. Also does anyone know if anybody makes a single gauge mount for the A-pillar. I hate the look of the edge insight or I'd go that route. Thanks for all the good info I get browsing this forum guys
 

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It's not a 'bolt on' but it would be very easy to remove the main EGR pipe, drill a hole and TIG the fitting onto it. Reinstall and you have your probe location. Since the EGT probe kits usually come with a fitting the cost would be just getting a welder to TIG it on. I'll bet it would be less than $25.
Re-drill the hole once it's TIG'd, install the EGT probe and reinstall the pipe.
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Thanks guys, ill definitely check KEM out. Its still hard to find parts for these things, being so new and all. Thats a problem I can deal with tho ha. so much to learn....
 

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The Edge Insight rocks plus you can set it up for up to 8 readings at one time. Trust me it is nice to see all the things that Ford does not show you. Like regen, Def fluid level, Batt voltage and real boost. There are four temp probes one is just post turbo. There is a number that you can add to that if you really need to know the pre turbo temp. For the most part if your running that close to melt down you would not be running the EGR. For 99% of us post temp is all you need. And you can add probes and other sensors to the acc port as well.







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Wow, I had no idea that you could tap into dpf levels and all the different pyro probes. That's pretty rad. You may just have changed my mind, does the smaller insight do this as well? I think it's the cts insight
 

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I have the KEM kit if you are interested in it. Was on the truck 3000 miles at most. Shoot me a PM

This will give you manifold EGT's which most say are the more accurate temps
 

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Mine is the CTS the smaller one is the CS. Both show the same PID's. The CTS just has a bigger screen as well as its a touch screen. Both can use the same accessories but the CS does not do back up cam or video. You can see just what the ECU of the truck sees. Here is a list of PID's for the 11-12 F250-350's:

Ambient Air Temp, Accel Pedal Position, Barometric Pressure, Battery Voltage, Corrected Speed, Dist. Between Regens, Dist. Since DTC Clear, Dist. Since Regen, DPF Pressure, DPF Soot Mass, DTC Count, EGT Post DPF, EGT Pre DPF, EGT Post Turbo, EGT Post SCR/Pre DPF, Engine Coolant Temp, Engine Load, Engine Oil Temp, Engine RPM, Engine Run Time, Fuel Level, Fuel Rate, Gear with Reverse, Gear with TCL, Intake Air Temp, Manifold Abs Pressure, Mileage Coach, MPG Instant, MPG Average, Nox PPM, Regeneration Status, Reductant (Urea) Level, Time 0-60, Time 1/4 mile, Torque, Torque Solenoid Pressure, Trans Temp, Turbo Boost


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Well I'll be go to hell, I knew the 6.7 had a ton of parameters that the CPU watched but I didn't know mission control was in the dash ha. Thanks for the info. I'm gonna look at some mounting options for the CS I think
 

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The only reading for EGT to worry about is the pre turbo EGT anything after the turbo is not of a concern, doesn't do you any good and has no point to caring about it. I get asked this question all the time and its a common misconception that you can read EGT from the exhaust any where. You want to know the temp before the turbo, thats where if things get to hot damage can occur ( turbo, pistons, valves, head and so on ). On the 6.7 if your up for it you can drill and tap the inboard exhaust manifolds but its the hard way around it. You can do a full egr delete and it will have a pre drilled and tapped plate with it for a probe, or you can do a budget kit that has just the plates or do as suggested earlier by having a 1/8" NPT bung welded into the egr supply pipe.
 

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its a common misconception
Not always, if your building a drag truck or pushing it with a hot tune yes. But if your just towing stock or with a mild tune post turbo is just fine. Considering that every diesel rig and engine manufacture looks at post temps including the Ford 6.7L's ECU. You want to know the temps that the turbo is at. Just saying both have there pros.
 

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Not always, if your building a drag truck or pushing it with a hot tune yes. But if your just towing stock or with a mild tune post turbo is just fine. Considering that every diesel rig and engine manufacture looks at post temps including the Ford 6.7L's ECU. You want to know the temps that the turbo is at. Just saying both have there pros.
The newer trucks that read temp after the turbo are for DPF function and that's it, it's just reading temp before, during and after the DPF. Has no purpose in performance tuning hence why they are deactivated once tuned.

Again reading EGT after the turbo doesn't tell you squat, you won't know what's going on pre turbo and that's where things get damaged. What are you worried about montoring temps for after the turbo? So your muffler and tip doesn't over heat LoL???? There is nothing to be damaged after that point so again no purpose in monitoring it.

Now in the gas world they do that for tuning purposes but were talking diesels here.

Diesel Racers will monitor individual cylinder temp or left bank right bank temp along with right before the turbo but there is again nothing to be gained by reading it after the turbo.
 

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so to get the pre turbo egt you have to void your warrenty and drill and weld to add the prob?
 

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Cratos, thats kinda what everyones telling me. Atleast to get it pre-turbo like I had it on my 6.0. Kinda lame you gotta go through that much crap to put a gauge on. But for my purposes im thinking an insight cs will work for me. Im leaving it stock for now. Warranty is worth to much to me to mess it up. I would love to get rid of the EGR tho and have clean oil again lol.
 
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