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Well guys after months and months of debate, and more reading then I care to think about, I just got off the phone with [email protected] DP tuner and ordered my F6 with the following settings: stock,80tow.80E,120 Race for now.

I had been on the fence between DP, PHP and BDP and made a call to all three. I had a very hard time getting ahold of PHP, which seems to be a growing trend. I in no way am trying to say anything bad about anyones product, but the customer service wasnt quite what I had hoped for. Once I did get through I talked to I believe Angela, and she was nice enough. I never did get an email response back from Bill however.

I had emailed Beans and never received a response either. I called and got through to eric easy enough. Eric was helpful on the phone but I was fairly disgruntled to hear that even though there tunes are all dyno proven, they dont custom tailor them to the individual customers truck. They choose from tunes made (and tested I am told) using preset configurations. I was told that if I had any issues with the tune, such as overdrive hitting too early, or an odd running issue that there was no grace period for adjustments and that I would have to pay custom tuning fees, or better yet bring the truck down for live tuning. Live tuning is not an option for me up here in Ontario. So needless to say, Beans may have great tunes, but they dont sound like the tunes for me, I like to feel like I will be taken care of after dropping $675 dollars on a tuner and "custom" tunes.

So, on to DP tuner. I have read all the horror stories of windowed blocks, HID and radio interference, touchy go pedals and high EGT's. I feel confident Jody is not going to destroy my motor through the many positive reviews I have read, and through praise of other members. He has also been around the block a time or two (no pun intended haha) I dont plan to run HID lights and ill deal with the radio issue if it even arrises. It doesn't sound too common. Jacob assured me if I feel the throttle is too touchy or I have an egt issue, I have a 90 day grace period for tweaks of my "individually customized tunes". That makes my day. Customer service at DP Tuner truly sets the bar. I always get in touch when I call. (I have talked to Dianne on two occasions and Jacob twice today) I have also had Jody promptly email me back detailed responses pertaining to my questions.

So I just want to set a positive experience with DP Tuner here, and I am quite sure when I receive my (sadly) back ordered chip I will love it and surely post a review comparing it to stock and my junk Diablosport.

Cheers,
Slimline aka Rob


P.S. I truly mean no disrespect to any other tuners I mentioned, I am sure they can all make fantastic tunes for trucks, they just did not pan out for me. I would have loved to have tried Cales tunes too, however he is out of the game temporarily and also did not respond to emails.

*EDIT* Updated with first impressions in Post 28!
 

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How come u didnt look at tony wildman tunes... TW, or matt at gearhead, swamps, u have seemed to have done you research so im just curious
 

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How come u didnt look at tony wildman tunes... TW, or matt at gearhead, swamps, u have seemed to have done you research so im just curious
I have heard great things about both Tony and Matt, and mixed reviews on Jonathan? at Swamps. I guess I never did confirm with Tony, but I know Matt will not email tunes and considering I have run this long without tunes, I dont want to run tuneless when I have to send my chip back for mods etc.

I will admit I like the idea of the F6 a lot too, I prefer the digital illuminated display of the tune your on with the DP switch, and I also ask why limit yourself to 6 tunes if you dont have to? I mean, I understand its unlikely I will ever use more than 2-3 often, but if I want to have a 40 tow, 60 tow, drive through, 80 econo, 80 performance, 120 race, high idle and a sled pull tune I can. I also like the idea of saving the wear and tear on my pcm by removing and installing the chip each time I send a ts chip for mods, or to reburn it myself. With the F6 I never have to take it off again.

My biggest fear was limiting myself with the F6 because I can never get another tuner to write me a tune if for some reason I was unhappy with Jody's. I do have 100% confidence that Jody will take care of my needs though.


*I think Matt, Jonathan and Tony all are capable of writing excellent tunes, I am in no way trying to dissuade anyone from purchasing their merchandise*
 

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If it's not too late I'd personally swap the stock and 80 tow positions. That way you won't have to go through the tow setting just to move from stock to 80e. Then again I don't know how much of a switcher you are. Either way I guess.

My TS is set up:

1: high idle 2: heavy tow 3: tow 4: eco 5: DD 6: race

Makes a nice U-setup on power so that you don't have to go through unassociated tunes
 

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Seems reasonable.... i didnt know jody emailed tunes. Learn something new every day
 

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If it's not too late I'd personally swap the stock and 80 tow positions. That way you won't have to go through the tow setting just to move from stock to 80e. Then again I don't know how much of a switcher you are. Either way I guess.

My TS is set up:

1: high idle 2: heavy tow 3: tow 4: eco 5: DD 6: race

Makes a nice U-setup on power so that you don't have to go through unassociated tunes

Yeah as far as I am aware I can swap the position of the tunes with my laptop right in the truck. I forgot to purchase high idle, but will add it eventually. So I think mine will go

1.High Idle
2.Stock
3.80 eco
4.80 perf
5.80 tow
6.120 race


BigFuel regarding your other post, if it was directed at me, I am aware Jonathan at Beans can email tunes. It is probably lost in one of my ramblings but that wasnt the reason I decided against Beans, it was a discussion with their sales rep Eric(?) who told me tunes arent custom tailored to each individual truck, and that would cost extra. I was also turned off of Beans because I was told if I had any issues with the tunes (like overdrive shift points, pedal dead spots, anything really) there was no grace period for a new purchaser to have that adjusted, I would have to pay for another custom tune revision.
 

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I hear ya. I'm not sure if it's their general policy or what as I sent my chip back 6 times for adjustments and all they charged was the shipping back to me. The second post was a general post since many people on here just figure that nobody emails tunes anymore. It's not true and here's a link. Not directed at you.
 

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I hear ya. I'm not sure if it's their general policy or what as I sent my chip back 6 times for adjustments and all they charged was the shipping back to me. The second post was a general post since many people on here just figure that nobody emails tunes anymore. It's not true and here's a link. Not directed at you.
Well for Beans sake I hope that Eric misunderstood my question. Hopefully they haven't changed there policies as from what I was told it was a turn off to do business with them. Are you by chance a member grandfathered into there free update policy? I believe it was somewhere around June of this year where they stopped offering free reburns.

Either way I have no regrets about my decision so far :) The wait for my chip is agonizing already.
 

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Congrats on the purchase, you'll think it's a whole new truck once you install it! But, once you get a taste of horsepower, it's hard to stop! :evillol:

I have stage 1 injectors, a T500 HPOP and some other goodies, along with tunes from Cale ay Tyrant Diesel. They're pretty nasty, but they're also a little smokier than other's tunes, which some people don't want.
 

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Got rid of you php tunes kevin??
 

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Congrats on the purchase, you'll think it's a whole new truck once you install it! But, once you get a taste of horsepower, it's hard to stop! :evillol:

I have stage 1 injectors, a T500 HPOP and some other goodies, along with tunes from Cale ay Tyrant Diesel. They're pretty nasty, but they're also a little smokier than other's tunes, which some people don't want.
Any idea what sort of numbers you are putting down? Your build sounds exactly like what I am aiming for except I may opt for rosewood budget stage 2's. I'm dreaming of a d66 but I want injectors next. All I have to do is convince my wife haha.
 

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Actually, BigFuel it looks like you have a crazy setup too! Ever dynoed it? I am worried for my tranny as I upgrade.
 

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Got rid of you php tunes kevin??
I got Cale's tunes about two months ago just for curiosity's sake. I felt like trying some new tunes!

Any idea what sort of numbers you are putting down? Your build sounds exactly like what I am aiming for except I may opt for rosewood budget stage 2's. I'm dreaming of a d66 but I want injectors next. All I have to do is convince my wife haha.
I can't say for sure, but it should be in the neighborhood of 350 to 375 hp and 750 to 800 ft lbs from all the reading I've done on similar setups. I'm itching to get it on the dyno though, just gotta get the opportunity!

And if I knew then what I know now when I bought my injectors, I would have gone with stage 2's or 238 hybrids the first time around. My stage 1's are fun, but upwards of 400hp is about all they've got.
 

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I'm getting sick and tired of my posts not showing up. I'm thinking 400 horsepower is my realistic semi safe goal. I will probably need to intercool and possibly invest in water/meth at those levels. My body is on serious need of work from the Ontario road salt though. That is next on my list, backburnering power sadly.
 

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Gotta take care of the essentials first! Having all kinds of power isn't gonna do much good if you're truck is falling apart!

And 400 hp is plenty safe on a 7.3. I've even seen a 600hp, 12 second 7.3 with a stock bottom end. My truck isn't intercooled or have water/meth (yet), and the only time I have to watch EGT's is when pulling trailers in the mountains. Even then, with the proper application of the skinny pedal, I haven't had any issue. And I drive like an a$$hole. Although the added power from an IC and water/meth would be nice!
 

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That's great to hear. For affordability sake I have been toying with rosewood stage ones while my wife is on mat leave, I can use her car. I'm worried ill be like you feeling like wanting more. My want list is far longer then my can afford list though so only time will tell. Wish I knew what I did with all my money before becoming a home owner with a wife and family to pay for.
 

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Don't get me wrong, stage 1's are a lot of fun, and my truck gets with the program in a hurry as it is. But I like LOTS of power, so I'm always wanting more. But, I'm perfectly content with how it is now. Plus it's a VERY reliable setup.

And I think about every member has the wants/money issue. lol
 

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Well your rig looks and sounds very clean. I'd love to check out some videos if you have any. Do you prefer Cale's tunes over Tony? I was disappointed to find out Cale was taking a time out from tuning,
 

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Thanks! It may look good in the pic, but up close it's far from that. I mean the body has no dents and it and the frame don't have a spec of rust on them, but the paint has seen better days by far. Lot's of little scatches, spider cracks, etc... I can get some videos if you'd like, what were you looking for?

And I had tunes from Bill at PHP, but Tony was definitely a consideration. I honestly don't remember why drove me to pick Bill over Tony, I've heard plenty of great things about both.

Cale's tunes are definitely a little more powerful than PHP's, but in Bill's defense, I had asked him for low-smoke, low-EGT tunes for when I was cruising in the mountains, so I'm sure he pulled the fuel back a little bit.
 
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