[RedDieselTruckMan]

Starting a 6.4 sled pull build since I got a few 6.4's kicking around at the moment and only one is my daily driver.

So from stock this is what I'd like to do:
delete dpf
delete egr
replace oil cooler
coolant filter kit
maxxforce piston
upgraded head bolts
Maybe bulletproof water pump


What else should I add to this list for a sled puller?

And what tune/tuner are you guys using? I see alot of old threads with people talking about kem 310 or 345 tunes, is this even a thing anymore?

Will this tuner work for deletes and loading a kem tune?

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[Heavy_GD]

Tagging in @CloverLeafFarm

@RedDieselTruckMan this is more of a PowerStrokeArmy conversation

 

[CloverLeafFarm]

VERY hard to find a tuner here in the states, maybe a fellow Canadian will chime in and help but because i know there is "some" routes to go up in canada to get tunes but i don't know if their actual people writing tunes still for those or if people are selling old boxed tunes.
Monitor is irrelevant as it won't help you go down the track.
you've yet to mention anything about:
rules/class
front/rear suspension setup
tire size
gear size
trans
injectors
fuel system
turbo(s)
IC upgrade
Cam?
Upgraded Heads
manifolds

Have you talked with people/shops that build 6.4s still for competition? theres less and less every year for obvious reasons

2008-10 Powerstoke - Midwest Diesel & Auto Inc. (midwestdieselauto.com)
These guys still build/compete with a 6.4 during the seasons. might pick their brain.

But Heavy is correct, you'll have much better luck talking with guys who still build 6.4s for power. like powerstrokearmy.com and even competitiondiesel.com

 

[kbnw15]

OP does this mean you have 2 trucks now, or just scrapped the idea of using the original 6.4 for your one big haul trip a year? Not judging just curious and bored at work.

 

[jokester00]

I know he pulled with his 6.0, but @nighthawk285 might have some insight as well.

-jokester

 

[RedDieselTruckMan]

Talked to a guy I know and he has a HP tuner, pretty sure its the MPVI3

So now in theory I just need a tune or learn how to use the HP tuner, I hear this just hooks up to a laptop and I can edit things myself.. shouldn't be too hard to just do the deletes and leave rest stock? Or who should I be talking to about custom tunes here if kem and spartan tunes are no longer a thing?

OP does this mean you have 2 trucks now, or just scrapped the idea of using the original 6.4 for your one big haul trip a year? Not judging just curious and bored at work.

Found a 2nd one for a steal of a deal. I'm less than 10k in for two trucks atm and a backup engine pulled out of a running truck at 114km.

You could say I doubled and tripled up to future proof myself.

VERY hard to find a tuner here in the states, maybe a fellow Canadian will chime in and help but because i know there is "some" routes to go up in canada to get tunes but i don't know if their actual people writing tunes still for those or if people are selling old boxed tunes.
Monitor is irrelevant as it won't help you go down the track.
you've yet to mention anything about:
rules/class
front/rear suspension setup
tire size
gear size
trans
injectors
fuel system
turbo(s)
IC upgrade
Cam?
Upgraded Heads
manifolds

Have you talked with people/shops that build 6.4s still for competition? theres less and less every year for obvious reasons

2008-10 Powerstoke - Midwest Diesel & Auto Inc. (midwestdieselauto.com)
These guys still build/compete with a 6.4 during the seasons. might pick their brain.

But Heavy is correct, you'll have much better luck talking with guys who still build 6.4s for power. like powerstrokearmy.com and even competitiondiesel.com

Well step one is making sure the damn thing doesn't blow up.... Does delete's count as "non stock" for stock class?

Mainly looking at the sled pull since I'd like to pull some heavy stuff cross country and this seems like a good way to stress test the truck, I don't particularly care if I win or if I get smoked by anything else. The thought process is if its good enough for a sled pull without breaking itself than it probably can handle the trailer pull I want to do.

The only shops I'm finding in canada are all in alberta so its just not in the cards for me to pay to tow my truck over to alberta and back to get them to work on it, but it may be worth picking their brain... I know at least one shop writes custom tunes too for deletes but normally duramax and 6.7 not so much 6.4.

Tire size is a good conversation... stock 6.4 seems to be 265/70r18 but I have a lariat so it says I should be using 265/65r20 and it says the265/70r18 is a spare tire, so I'm not totally sure what to think about that. I assume for sled pulls you would want something wider than the 8.5 rim with 11.5 tire?

Everything else is stock, but I want to upgrade the head bolts since I hear they stretch with more hp. Not totally sure if I need more hp tho, buddy of mines flat deck tow truck is only 200hp and seems to be able to tow stuff just fine despite being nearly half the hp of my truck.

 

[Hydro]

If you intend to build a "stock" puller
start of with learning the rules of the class and organization you will be running with
and build the truck around their rules --
most places are pretty strict about what is "stock" and what is not

 

[RedDieselTruckMan]

If you intend to build a "stock" puller
start of with learning the rules of the class and organization you will be running with
and build the truck around their rules --
most places are pretty strict about what is "stock" and what is not

Okay... so I'll enter non-stock than...

Really just looking to talk to guys and see what they have done to their truck to be able to survive this, so I can see what else may be worth focusing on, or what tunes might be worth looking at.

I don't actually care about the rules, or sled pulling, its more of a test and I'll enter whatever class they say the truck should go in, if I come in last place I again don't care. For sure not trying to compete with 2000hp duramax's, but also not going to handycap my truck by trying to stay within stock rule sets, if I have to be low tier nonstock thats fine too.

 

[Heavy_GD]

Starting a 6.4 sled pull build since

What else should I add to this list for a sled puller?

I don't actually care about the rules, or sled pulling,

 

[RedDieselTruckMan]

I guess you don't seem to understand; everyone (including you) keeps repeatedly telling me the 6.4 is trash, its going to blow up, sell it, bail now, run away.


Its getting really old.

So I'm trying to talk to sled pull people who actually do things to their truck to prevent it from breaking when pushed to towing limits... same as I plan on doing... If I can enter a sled pull - great - but theres none near me and the main goal here is to gain the INFORMATION from people who are more likely to have it than daily drivers.

Like I'm over here, trying dozens of different ways to get the awnsers I need cuz all I'm getting is troll posts like this instead of people actually talking about what is required to abuse these engines a bit without breaking them.

Its getting REALLY BLOODY OLD having the admins doing nothing but spam and derail subjects, if you can't understand why I want to talk sled pull guys instead of arguing all day with daily drivers about how I need to sell it now than I'm not sure what else to tell you but I'm starting to think I'm wasting my time posting here and should be posting in other forums.

 

[RedDieselTruckMan]

Like why is it your on every post of my spamming instead of being useful and linking something useful like this?

General 6.4 Modifications

It seems there have been a lot of threads recently about bulletproofing a 6.4 or what general modifications should be done to keep a 6.4 running well, so I am putting this together so we can get most of the information unified. First and foremost with these engines, maintenance is crucial...

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I get that admins are here to "have fun" but its a bit frustrating to me to have unhelpful mods spam me instead of linking something that would be helpful - my 2 cents.

 

[CloverLeafFarm]

99.9% of members here who have a 6.4 have never hooked to a sled.
back in 2009 i began to to build a 7.3 and competed for about 3-4 years all over illinois/indiana. Granted i was only around 600 hp (basically a stock 6.4 with tuning) but i thats what i did because i wanted to be different and did majority of it myself. during those days this site was very active with guys/shops who had been through the 7.3 game and then jumped to different platforms but i was able to learn from them on how to build my truck to help get the maximum hp to the ground when i was competiting against guys that were well over 1,000 hp.

That being said, like Heavy D said in post 2, this forum has now became an entry level forum for guys. Thats why it was referenced to join other forums where guys are doing EXACTLY what your asking for and then some.
IF you don't want to take the advice thats given to talk to people who can answer every single question you have based on their experience then simply do this:
Find someone who can get you a tune and load it for whatever hp you want
put in some studs
put it in 4Hi 2nd gear and see how far you can pull.

If you break, then fix whatever breaks
if nothing breaks, then your good to do it again.

 

[Heavy_GD]

I get that admins are here to "have fun" but its a bit frustrating to me to have unhelpful mods spam me instead of linking something that would be helpful - my 2 cents.

That being said, like Heavy D said in post 2, this forum has now became an entry level forum for guys. Thats why it was referenced to join other forums where guys are doing EXACTLY what your asking for and then some.
IF you don't want to take the advice thats given to talk to people who can answer every single question you have based on their experience then simply do this:

Crazy to think you came here to less than a month and you are the only one out of thousands of members having a hard time with their feelings.

Good luck and warm hugs.

 

[kbnw15]

I somewhat get what you're saying OP, with the thought process of sled pulling being a decent litmus test. You don't have to enter in a sled pull as a participant to just be able to go to one and ask around the pits what guys got going on. That being said what goes into building a sled puller doesn't really translate a bunch into daily driving "normal" truck use. Sled pulling is all about traction and transferring whatever power you got to the ground and hoping everything holds together.

 

[CloverLeafFarm]

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HP MPVI3 Tuner?

Anyone use a hp MPVI3 tuner for deletes? Buddy of mine has one and I'm trying to figure out if I can at least get my ball rolling by deleting the dpf and egr with it. MPVI3MPVI3

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