[powerstroke1098]

I Have a 2000 7.3 and I plan on getting 238/100's, t-500 hpop, gtp38r, springs and pushrods, raptor 150gph pump, regulated return, and a good clutch, i have an exhaust and intake, and gauges already and a ts 6 position to have custom tuned for the modifications, with good tuning will i be safe without studs? What would be the max numbers i should see safely? And does this list need anything added to it and will it be relatively reliable hp?

 

[timmyboy76]

someones' run'n almost identical set-up, and seeing 35psi, with stock studs. Personally, anything over 30psi, i'd be skeptical..

 

[powerstroke1098]

What are they seeing for hp numbers im expecting 450ish? And has he run into many issues? And can you think of anything to add to my list? Thanks

 

[timmyboy76]

i''l paste the link shortly, but only thing i can think of, is doing the HUTCH mod. Ya, you got the raptor and R.R., but fuel problem starts with pickup assy.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1224613-dyno-results.html

 

[Tj Krawler]

What are they seeing for hp numbers im expecting 450ish? And has he run into many issues? And can you think of anything to add to my list? Thanks

238/100s can get into 500HP+. There are a few running 238/100s with a 38r, stock bolts and springs.

 

[powerstroke1098]

Thanks 500hp seems a little much for me to feel safe without studs if its capable of making 500hp id want to run it at 450hp max. And people are using the same setup and making 500hp without studs is what your saying right?

 

[powerstroke1098]

I want 238/100's because theyre capable of making more power than i want, so down the line i could get studs and maybe a bigger turbo and have more hp but wouldnt they be fine for a 38r if tuned correctly?

 

[blue99stroker]

ya you could always have them de-tuned. so later down the road when you want more power you could just get new tunes.
id check out the new wicked wheel for the 38r too. i havent seen much on it lately but it looked like the results were good.

 

[Tj Krawler]

Thanks 500hp seems a little much for me to feel safe without studs if its capable of making 500hp id want to run it at 450hp max. And people are using the same setup and making 500hp without studs is what your saying right?

Yes, or at least similar setups. Not saying it's an ideal setup, but people are doing it without too many problems. There's even a few running 250/200s without studs/springs. That starts really pushing limits though.

I want 238/100's because theyre capable of making more power than i want, so down the line i could get studs and maybe a bigger turbo and have more hp but wouldnt they be fine for a 38r if tuned correctly?

Yes, just make sure your tuner of choice knows you don't want a full fuel tune. I would even consider going to a 250/xxx. Cost is usually about the same, but will allow for a little more power later.

ya you could always have them de-tuned. so later down the road when you want more power you could just get new tunes.
id check out the new wicked wheel for the 38r too. i havent seen much on it lately but it looked like the results were good.

:agree:

There is at least one truck at 600HP+ with a 38r with the WW G2. With 250/200s IIRC. Gained over 50HP from the WW.

 

[dentexpowerstroke]

It's really not based on a boost number for studs, it's cylinder pressure. Springs are cheap and easy, I would do them as cheap insurance. I know one guy that made 49x hp with stage 2s and he didn't do springs, ended up having 8 cracked pistons due to piston to valve contact. When you start getting close to 500hp I would do studs as cheap insurance for the seasoned hgs.

 

[powerstroke1098]

thanks for all the input guys , i decided to do studs now that i have heard of people doing it with their motor in the truck and unbolting the mm's and jacking it either way to clear, i will have my trans out at the same time as installing all of the above and it shouldn't be too hard, im going to do the one stud at a time method and use my stock head gasket.