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Hey Guy, a couple of years ago my Fuel bowl where the fuel filter is located on top the engine was leaking.... I spent a lot of money getting it fixed with another by mechanic before i started learning a lot about modifications of these truck. Man did that suck, i could have done the mod then had i known.

Anyways. It is leaking again so now i am looking into doing the Fuel mod that removes the fuel bowl. I read a while about a modification to the fuel system that would replace the fuel bowl. Not sure if it is the Hutch and Harpoon mod if something different. I know i can probably do some searches on this site but at the moment i dont have a lot of time and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. here are a few questions i have regarding the mod.

1. Will the hutch and harpoon mod replace the fuel bowl or is there another
2. is this mod very complicated or is it easy to install? i am pretty mechanically inclined, but i dont know diesels that well
3. is there ia general ball park cost to this mod?
4. does the Fuel system mode REQUIRE a Fuel Pressure gauge? or only recommended?
5. If there are many different Fuel modifications that can be done, which is the best or most recommended?

Truck is in sig. '02 F250 2WD 7.3L - I do plan on keeping this truck for a long time and i do plan on performing other mods like the PHP chip, new larger injectors, new larger turbo, etc. So based on this what is recommended?

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im pretty sure the hutch and harpoon mod has to do with the pick up in the tank. when it comes time, i think i am going to use the kit from Irate, he does a nice job and i wont have to worry if i did it right. and then you get regulated return also.
 

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thanks cowboy, but is there a mod that would remove/replace the Fuel bowl / filter housing? thought i read that somewhere a while back
 

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jake will probly make whatever you need, but i know driven diesel makes a kit i think it can be had for around $600 with no filter. i am sure there are others. but there are also threads on self made kits if you want to go that route, you said you didnt have much time so i was giving you the easy way out :) if you are planning on bigger injectors in the future i would definatly do a regulated return while you are at it.
 

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Ok and yeah always busy... not much time to spare, but i definitly want to do it right... So a Regulated Return is the way to go then... i do remember reading and discussing this type of mod a while back. Does the RR include removing the stock fuel filter bowl? and replacing it with something else?
 

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it can go both ways, there is a strait RR, then there is RR with bowl delete, and there is the full blown systems with pump filter RR and everything. it all depends on how far you want to go and how much you want to spend.... like always.
 

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I gotcha, guess i need to start price comparing, definitely looking at the bowl delete. tired of fixing my stock bowl that keeps leaking. guess i will get a price on the full blown system while i'm at it. Any suggestions/recommendations on company to buy from? You listed Irate in a previous post. They offer the full blown systems? Any company i should stay away from? oh and thanks for the info, big help
 

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i am no expert, heck you have been a member longer than me, but i guess i read too much :D I think irate is well respected, i seem to remember reading somewhere that the Air Dog systems had some problems but im not sure of that. I have herd nothing but good stuff about FuelLab equipment(which is what irate uses) i think the driven diesel stuff is respectable for the price. I feel like we are having a private conversation here and i wish someone with actual experience would chime in. all i know is what i have read in my own research, as i plan on doing this soon myself.
 

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Cowboy no worries. You threw out some good suggestions .. now that i read them i am remembering the names. Will just do some price comparisons. When do you plan on doing your? I wasnt planning on mine anytime soon but this dang leak will force me to do this mod very soon.
 

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my wife said i can spend the tax return this year :) , and i have a long shopping list LOL
 

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If you want a stock fuel bowl, the one I just took out is a year old, i'll sell it to you for $150.

I pulled my stock fuel bowl because I did the regulated return with bowl delete. If you want to do the hutch/harpoon mod, you're going to have to drop the tank and modify it. I used Strictly Diesel's kits for my fuel system. I used their pre-pump filter setup/in-tank kit for a filter before the fuel pump and also to do the hutch/harpoon mod. I also bought their regulated return setup that removes the stock fuel bowl. When you remove the stock fuel bowl, you also need to buy a post-pump filter which can be added to the kit when you order the RR with bowl delete. You will also want to add both of the adapters and return line hose since i'm assuming you're going to keep your stock fuel return line. It's what I did and it's simple to install. I have about 1k in my fuel system total and i'm happy with it.

When you delete the fuel bowl, you'll have a "fuel block" that bolts where the bowl was and your fuel feed line will run to the top of it. You'll run one line to the driver and passenger side front fuel ports and the rear fuel ports will be for your return lines. Return lines run to the regulator (FuelLab) and then down the line back to the fuel tank. I noticed a big difference in power after installing the RR also. If you have any questions or need help with anything just ask, this is fresh in my head. If you can afford to do it, i'll buy it all at once. Spend a weekend installing it all and you'll be pleased with it also.

If you want pictures let me know. I can either post them here or text them to you. Whichever works for you.
 

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I rebuilt my fuel bowl in about 45 minutes with a rebuild kit off of Ebay.
It's just a bunch of o-rings. Pretty easy to do, too. There's even a pretty decent how-to video on it on Youtube.
 

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If you want a stock fuel bowl, the one I just took out is a year old, i'll sell it to you for $150.

I pulled my stock fuel bowl because I did the regulated return with bowl delete. If you want to do the hutch/harpoon mod, you're going to have to drop the tank and modify it. I used Strictly Diesel's kits for my fuel system. I used their pre-pump filter setup/in-tank kit for a filter before the fuel pump and also to do the hutch/harpoon mod. I also bought their regulated return setup that removes the stock fuel bowl. When you remove the stock fuel bowl, you also need to buy a post-pump filter which can be added to the kit when you order the RR with bowl delete. You will also want to add both of the adapters and return line hose since i'm assuming you're going to keep your stock fuel return line. It's what I did and it's simple to install. I have about 1k in my fuel system total and i'm happy with it.

When you delete the fuel bowl, you'll have a "fuel block" that bolts where the bowl was and your fuel feed line will run to the top of it. You'll run one line to the driver and passenger side front fuel ports and the rear fuel ports will be for your return lines. Return lines run to the regulator (FuelLab) and then down the line back to the fuel tank. I noticed a big difference in power after installing the RR also. If you have any questions or need help with anything just ask, this is fresh in my head. If you can afford to do it, i'll buy it all at once. Spend a weekend installing it all and you'll be pleased with it also.

If you want pictures let me know. I can either post them here or text them to you. Whichever works for you.
Tom, Thanks for all of the info. Yes i would like to get prices if you got'em.

I am leaning towards the RR with Bowl delete, but if it turns out that i dont do that and need to change my existing bowl then i will keep your stock bowl in mind.

Is there a particular brand RR w/bowl delete you have prices on? I will send you a PM with my email so you can info direct.

I have more questions and could definitely use the help figuring out the best thing to go with

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I rebuilt my fuel bowl in about 45 minutes with a rebuild kit off of Ebay.
It's just a bunch of o-rings. Pretty easy to do, too. There's even a pretty decent how-to video on it on Youtube.
Demian, that is interesting to know. I want to do the RR mod for the improvements but depending on price, if i dont i will definitly look into this rebuild kit

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I have a regulated return as well (the "economy" version).
I just don't see the point of deleting a perfectly good source of fuel filtration when it can be easily repaired.
 

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I have a regulated return as well (the "economy" version).
I just don't see the point of deleting a perfectly good source of fuel filtration when it can be easily repaired.
Yeah that's a good point, if it can be repaired for cheap then sure. I am just coming from the experience that it cost me about $700 about 2 years ago from a mechanic... maybe they screwed me over :dunno: i know i had other stuff done at the same time, just dont remember. But it does chap my a$$ when i have to keep getting the same thing fixed. Plus as i am gathering info, it is sounding like the RR w/ bowl delete is a big improvement over stock. Or does that not really apply to the fuel bowl setup.

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If you're doing a fuel bowl delete, you still need to have a filter put in somewhere else. I have the hutch mod filter kit installed on the frame rail as well as the stock one in the fuel bowl. I'd much rather have too much filtration than not enough. I'm already pretty good at swapping out injectors, I just don't want to make a habit of it!
Honestly, rebuilding the fuel bowl is a cake walk. Check out the Youtube vid and see for yourself. The kit is less than $20 IIRC.
 

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I have a regulated return as well (the "economy" version).
I just don't see the point of deleting a perfectly good source of fuel filtration when it can be easily repaired.
I have a pre pump and post pump filters... They're both cheaper than that stock filter you keep buying for that POS bowl also...


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Hey man, I called and left you a voicemail. Give me a holler if you have any questions.


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Hey man, I called and left you a voicemail. Give me a holler if you have any questions.


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Tom,

I got your vm but have been very busy lately. I will definitely be calling you very soon, is that your cell?

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