[Calif250]

I went by the ford dealer to grab a couple things. Figured I would pick up an oil filter while I was at it. The parts guy told me the 2051 was superceded by the 2124 and that it was roughly double in price, 56$. I was a bit jaw dropped but told them to put it with my order. Afterward I came on the stroke to see what info was on here about it and didn't see anything. There is a good YouTube video cutting apart the 2 and doing a comparison.

By the way, autozone sells them for 22$...

 

[tomshep]

Jeez, talk about dragging a comparison out so he can get more air time. So, to save everyone 15+ minutes of life they are pretty much the same in all aspects except the filter media. The newer version appears to be a synthetic filter media, similar to a "Wix HP" quoted from him, and the old filter media is not as good a media.

Tom

 

[jrsavoie]

Jeez, talk about dragging a comparison out so he can get more air time. So, to save everyone 15+ minutes of life they are pretty much the same in all aspects except the filter media. The newer version appears to be a synthetic filter media, similar to a "Wix HP" quoted from him, and the old filter media is not as good a media.

Tom

Thank you much.

 

[Jdaniel]

I found this out about a month ago when I ordered two new 2051 filters. I received two of the newer ones and watched that same video. It wasn’t too bad.

I change my oil every 3500 to 4500 miles and only change it when the engine is at operational temp. Some say that’s a bit extreme but I’ve got almost 200,000 miles on the clock and I’ve never experienced a major issue. Still on the stock turbo too.

Anyhoo… I’ve noticed at regular oil changes that the 10W30 seems like the consistency changes to something more similar to water which is why I like keeping the oil changed. Last night was the first oil change with the new filter. The oil had 3500 miles on it. I stuck my finger into the stream and I was very surprised to find the oil was still tacky and not as watery as I’ve found it to be over the past thirteen years of ownership.

My first thought is the new filter is doing something different (better) since that’s the only change in the equation. Anyone have any ideas to the contrary?

 

[Jdaniel]

Oh… and if you paid the dealer $56 for an oil filter, they’re ripping you off big time. I get my filters on Amazon and they’re OE. The dealer local to me sells them at $29.79 a pop. Amazon has them at $21.56.

Motorcraft Oil Filter - FL2124S (Replaces Motorcraft Oil Filter - FL2051S) https://a.co/d/fg7x5Rt

 

[The Evil Twin]

Interesting. Wonder why they changed em.
I do love the MEtube videos where people are going by look and feel and stuff.

 

[Calif250]

Oh… and if you paid the dealer $56 for an oil filter, they’re ripping you off big time.

Fool me once....

 

[jrsavoie]

Fool me once....

Wish in one hand

 

[Calif250]

Wish in one hand

Which one filled up first?

 

[Calif250]

So I bought the autozone one to have it on hand... aaaaand.... looks like a knock off. The writing on the box is smeared on the autozone product. Also has different style holes at the top. I'll be returning that one.

 

[GregWork]

Dealer screwed you over on price. They are available from Ford dealers online for under $30 all day long…

FL-2124-S - Ford Parts Giant

www.fordpartsgiant.com

Genuine Ford FL-2124-S Oil Filter - FordPartsOne.com

Genuine Ford FL-2124-S Oil Filter Ships directly to you from FordPartsOne.com saving you time and money! (Replaces FL-2051-S)

fordpartsone.com

 

[Socket]

Oh… and if you paid the dealer $56 for an oil filter, they’re ripping you off big time. I get my filters on Amazon and they’re OE. The dealer local to me sells them at $29.79 a pop. Amazon has them at $21.56.

Motorcraft Oil Filter - FL2124S (Replaces Motorcraft Oil Filter - FL2051S) https://a.co/d/fg7x5Rt

I’d be cautious ordering it from Amazon. There has been an uptick of knock offs being sold as factory replacements. Not just Ford, it’s also happened with Toyota FIPG from there (speaking from what I’ve seen and dealt with).

 

[The Evil Twin]

^truth
An old neighbor wrecked his fuel system with Chinesium fuel filters from the Amazon. They make really good Motorcraft packaging. Just not filters.

 

[jrsavoie]

I’d be cautious ordering it from Amazon. There has been an uptick of knock offs being sold as factory replacements. Not just Ford, it’s also happened with Toyota FIPG from there (speaking from what I’ve seen and dealt with).

The amount of counterfeit stuff is crazy.
Every brand of car part.
I believe Amazon is now an official place to buy AC Delco parts. Due to previously selling counterfeits.
Expensive fishing line is counterfeited a lot.

 

[Calif250]

Oh… and if you paid the dealer $56 for an oil filter, they’re ripping you off big time. I get my filters on Amazon and they’re OE. The dealer local to me sells them at $29.79 a pop. Amazon has them at $21.56.

Motorcraft Oil Filter - FL2124S (Replaces Motorcraft Oil Filter - FL2051S) Amazon.com

So I used that amazon link and bought 2 of them. BOTH knockoffs! Bought diesel additive also from Amazon. Knockoff again! Looks like I'm only buying from ford dealer websites...

 

[Jdaniel]

So I used that amazon link and bought 2 of them. BOTH knockoffs! Bought diesel additive also from Amazon. Knockoff again! Looks like I'm only buying from ford dealer websites...

There are several links to oil filters on Amazon. You sure you used that exact link? How did you know you received knockoffs? I’ve ordered the 2051 filters from that link for two years now and there is absolutely no visible difference between theirs and one I purchased from Ford. Do you have pics?

 

[Calif250]

You sure you used that exact link? How did you know you received knockoffs? Do you have pics?

Yes same link. The printing on the box is half ***. They look identical to the pics I posted from autozone. The parts I have received from ford have clear printing and circular holes in the oil filter. These do not. Putting the diesel additive side by side is easy to spot as well.

 

[Jdaniel]

Mine was OE. Not sure what you got.

 

[jrsavoie]

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Yes same link. The printing on the box is half ***. They look identical to the pics I posted from autozone. The parts I have received from ford have clear printing and circular holes in the oil filter. These do not. Putting the diesel additive side by side is easy to spot as well.

Which additive?

 

[Calif250]

Dealership part on left of each. They're good fakes. The additive was cheap, notice they even gave less in the bottle... Amazon picture is correct, not what they sent me though...

Use what you want, maybe you got a genuine part. All I'm saying is amazon gave me fakes. Beware.