ECM Tuning for 2020 6.7
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Seems as they got the TCM stuff in the works right now. PCM tuning isn't out yet.
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I've already seen a video of a 2020 missing it's exhaust system. They had to bench flash the PCM. The truck is a test rig.
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Yes, we do now have tuning complete along with TCM tuning, but it is not cheap and requires you to send in your ECM as these computers are very similar to the L5P Duramax. Not sure when we'll have OBD flash capabilities yet though.
So for now, price is $2995. I don't have it on the website yet as I have been extremely busy.
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So for now, price is $2995. I don't have it on the website yet as I have been extremely busy.
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Holy snack crackers.............................................................
Well if you want to be first it's gonna be expensive.....LOL
Well if you want to be first it's gonna be expensive.....LOL
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With a PCM reflash are you guys seeing significant gains with this new turbo then? Curious how it compaires to the OBD reflash adding 150-200 hp on the 2017-2019...
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So I recall the PCM and TCM as two separate modules. Does one remove both modules for bench flashing (at this point)??
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Unfortunately the 2020 turbos from what I hear are not very well built and HP will probably be less compared to the 15-19's.
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That's quite interesting.....is it a hardware problem or a software problem??? Not very well built needs to be expanded on.
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It's a poorly built turbo. Weak, like the 11-14 turbos. Again this is what I have heard from Charlie at KC Turbos if I remember correctly.
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According to this, they look pretty impressive.
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I thought the issues with the 11-14 turbos were the crap ceramic bearings and small wheel spinning too high on tuned engines...
Everything I've read and seen so far says the new turbo has a bigger compressor wheel, better built/lubricated bearing (watch the attached video to see how SPE upgraded the 17-19 OEM bearing), and is electronically actuated (help with cold weather control). All that sounds like more R&D and a better product to me. As with all things though, time will tell.
Also, this doesn't even mention the fact that it has a longer powerband when back to back dyno graphs are compared between a 17-19 and a 20.
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What is that graph from? Also, I cant make out what it says.According to this, they look pretty impressive.
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I would not say the 2020 turbos are poor quality.
The comp wheel is smaller
turbine wheel is smaller
shaft is smaller
and went back to a dual ball bearing cartridge similar to the 2011-2014
The power gains on the truck might have nothing to do with the turbo... the engine got a lot of upgrades including the pistons, injectors, injection system, rods, etc.
I will try to get the pics uploaded... but here is a link to compare the 2019 vs 2020 turbos side by side.
The comp wheel is smaller
turbine wheel is smaller
shaft is smaller
and went back to a dual ball bearing cartridge similar to the 2011-2014
The power gains on the truck might have nothing to do with the turbo... the engine got a lot of upgrades including the pistons, injectors, injection system, rods, etc.
I will try to get the pics uploaded... but here is a link to compare the 2019 vs 2020 turbos side by side.
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Sorry it’s so blurry, not sure why it’s like that. It’s from a 2020 on a diet. [email protected] with [email protected] rpm. Stock showed [email protected] with [email protected]2110rpm. CF on the graph shows uncorrected.
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Thanks for that!
603 hp tunes on a diet is plenty to work with for me not to mention that nice power band!
It'll be amazing when they have that reflash able through an OBD via EZLYNK.
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I'll be waiting until I stack on the miles and see how the guinea pigs do with the new transmission with more torque. I plan to eventually get the HP tuners software and do some tweeking. So far the tuned numbers for the 2020 are very impressive.
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Not to hi-jack, but hopefully revive...has anyone just bought a new ECM and had it tuned? That’s my line of thought at this point. It seems that the days of handheld tuners with downloaded tunes are going the way of the Buffalo. It looks to me that a oem Ford ECM will run about $650 for a 2020, and from what I can tell should be plug and play for the truck- no dealership needed to flash/format. If that’s the case, I’ll leave my stock ECM exactly that, and just send in the new one for tuning. If I’m not mistaken, any flash done at the dealership will wipe the tunes, effectively pissing away the time and money spent wringing out the extra power. If the truck does have a problem, I’ll plug my stock brain back in, keeping my expensive a$$ tunes safe and sound from the evil dealer flash. Is this logical thinking, or am I missing something? I do realize that that is an extra expense with the spare ecm, but it’s cheaper than what most decent handheld tuners would cost for a 15’-19’. Any suggestions on where to get the flash? I’m seeing most offering 100hp gains with emissions intact, which I do intend to keep, but the more the merrier...until it breaks. I’m ok with a respectable, but safe, level of improvement. I have seen some dyno figures posted that sound very suspect. The truck is rated at 475/1050, so to see stock numbers at 471/1068 makes me call bs on the tuned gains. TFL put a stock 19’ and 20’ on a dyno, and while impressive, the 2020 didn’t put down numbers like that. Perhaps the dyno was just badly out of calibration. Does anyone know of any real-world un-inflated tunes numbers? Thanks to all who reply in advance.
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