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Does anyone know of a tuner who has been able to design reflash tunes for the 2020 powerstroke yet? Looking for ECM and Transmission. If not, does anyone know of a company that has some in the works?
 

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Seems as they got the TCM stuff in the works right now. PCM tuning isn't out yet.
 

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I've already seen a video of a 2020 missing it's exhaust system. They had to bench flash the PCM. The truck is a test rig.
 
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Thanks guys, guess it'll be a waiting game forn now.

It'll be nice to be able to put a SOTF tune on it via EZLYNK like my previous powerstroke...
 

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Yes, we do now have tuning complete along with TCM tuning, but it is not cheap and requires you to send in your ECM as these computers are very similar to the L5P Duramax. Not sure when we'll have OBD flash capabilities yet though.

So for now, price is $2995. I don't have it on the website yet as I have been extremely busy.

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Holy snack crackers.............................................................
Well if you want to be first it's gonna be expensive.....LOL
 

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Interesting, looks like Ill be waiting to see when the OBD flash gets worked out...hopefully.
 

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Yes, we do now have tuning complete along with TCM tuning, but it is not cheap and requires you to send in your ECM as these computers are very similar to the L5P Duramax. Not sure when we'll have OBD flash capabilities yet though.

So for now, price is $2995. I don't have it on the website yet as I have been extremely busy.

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With a PCM reflash are you guys seeing significant gains with this new turbo then? Curious how it compaires to the OBD reflash adding 150-200 hp on the 2017-2019...
 

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So I recall the PCM and TCM as two separate modules. Does one remove both modules for bench flashing (at this point)??
 

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With a PCM reflash are you guys seeing significant gains with this new turbo then? Curious how it compaires to the OBD reflash adding 150-200 hp on the 2017-2019...
Unfortunately the 2020 turbos from what I hear are not very well built and HP will probably be less compared to the 15-19's.
 

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That's quite interesting.....is it a hardware problem or a software problem??? Not very well built needs to be expanded on.
 

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That's quite interesting.....is it a hardware problem or a software problem??? Not very well built needs to be expanded on.
It's a poorly built turbo. Weak, like the 11-14 turbos. Again this is what I have heard from Charlie at KC Turbos if I remember correctly.


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According to this, they look pretty impressive.


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It's a poorly built turbo. Weak, like the 11-14 turbos. Again this is what I have heard from Charlie at KC Turbos if I remember correctly.


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I thought the issues with the 11-14 turbos were the crap ceramic bearings and small wheel spinning too high on tuned engines...

Everything I've read and seen so far says the new turbo has a bigger compressor wheel, better built/lubricated bearing (watch the attached video to see how SPE upgraded the 17-19 OEM bearing), and is electronically actuated (help with cold weather control). All that sounds like more R&D and a better product to me. As with all things though, time will tell.

Also, this doesn't even mention the fact that it has a longer powerband when back to back dyno graphs are compared between a 17-19 and a 20.

 

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I would not say the 2020 turbos are poor quality.
The comp wheel is smaller
turbine wheel is smaller
shaft is smaller
and went back to a dual ball bearing cartridge similar to the 2011-2014

The power gains on the truck might have nothing to do with the turbo... the engine got a lot of upgrades including the pistons, injectors, injection system, rods, etc.

I will try to get the pics uploaded... but here is a link to compare the 2019 vs 2020 turbos side by side.

 

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I'll be waiting until I stack on the miles and see how the guinea pigs do with the new transmission with more torque. I plan to eventually get the HP tuners software and do some tweeking. So far the tuned numbers for the 2020 are very impressive.
 
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