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So I live in Norcal, and recently purchased my first diesel, 2002 7.3 powerstroke Excursion limited, 285k miles. Curious to know best fuel for the buck. what will be the best fuel for the engine and mpg? there is a fuel station in the next town up with HPF Diesel? Sticker on rear of rig says Powered by BioDiesel. Any input welcome.
 

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Congrats! Those International engines are nice. Is it all stock or did the prior owner modify it? I wonder if they were using B20? Isn't that what most service stations sell? I had a hard time trying to find BioDiesel anywhere near me. With an Excursion, I can't see you going around with 55 gallon drums in the back going around to restaurants to get their used cooking oil. You would pretty much need a pickup truck to do that. Making your own BioDiesel would save you a ton each year in fuel costs if you don't mind going through all the hassle to make it. Maybe you could tow a small trailer around to carry the 55 gallon drums to pick up the used cooking oil so that you can continue to use your own BioDiesel.
 

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Thanks, It's truely a great rig. Motorwise, all stock. cattleguard, and a few other additions were added. mostly stock. We have a fuel station that offers Bio for $2.69 or so, while diesel is $4.09, then there is the HPR Diesel; while it is the same price as diesel, many reviews are stating anywhere from 1.5-4mpg gain and upwards of HP difference. bio may be something i would consider at the price. But does it burn quicker?? It definitely isnt something i will be filtering myself, or even using if not from a fuel center.
 

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you can run bio diesel the heui injectors do very well with it but not in winter and it will clean EVERYTHING out of the fuel system.
be prepared to change fuel filters a number of times when you first start.
if i could get it cheap i would.
that said
my daughter went to berzerkely.
i had to put bio diesel stickers on my truck so i could go visit her without it being vandalized.
because compassionate and tolerant berzerkely types...
it did work the suburban parked in front of me was vandalized and they left me alone :doh:
so the bio sticker may be nothing more than nor cal insurance :hehe:
but very nice rig i would love to get me a good ex one day :nod:

back to fuel you can mix a bit of bio and regular diesel and it will replace lubricity better than anything else out there and cheaper in the process.
and again it will really clean up the fuel system
 
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Where in NorCal, if I may ask?

I live in northeast Sacramento County. I use the HPR Diesel exclusively in town. You can look into it by going to: http://www.propelfuels.com

My experience with it is - my '01 7.3L loves the stuff. To me, the engine runs smoother, a bit quieter than ULSD. (Can definitely tell when on the road and HPR isn't available) The truck is peppier than ULSD. I think the mileage is roughly the same, maybe slightly higher.
As you'll see from the website, CARB considers it a clean burning fuel. The exhaust doesn't smell the same as ULSD.
 
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Where in NorCal, if I may ask?

I live in northeast Sacramento County. I use the HPR Diesel exclusively in town. You can look into it by going to:(LINK)

My experience with it is - my '01 7.3L loves the stuff. To me, the engine runs smoother, a bit quieter than ULSD. (Can definitely tell when on the road and HPR isn't available) The truck is peppier than ULSD. I think the mileage is roughly the same, maybe slightly higher.
As you'll see from the website, CARB considers it a clean burning fuel. The exhaust doesn't smell the same as ULSD.
Down in Galt, There is a propel fuel Site, Shell @ Bond Road and Hwy99 in Elk Grove that offers the HPR, and I that is why I asked.
 

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wait....
i have a town? :rofl:
 

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^^^ Now that's funny!
 

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The last time I saw diesel was about $3.25/gal in Miami. If I lived in California, I'd be making my own bio-diesel. When you drive a truck that barely gets 8-12 MPG, $4+ per gallon is just WAY too much to be spending on fuel unless you drive like 500-800 miles per month or something.

This is why I wish Ford would make small Rangers with small diesel engines that got 30+ MPG. I don't understand why Europe gets all of those nice economical engines and they screw us people in the US with gas hog engines.
 

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That's hilarious. i laughed to myself when i first saw your name.
Had to look at your profile for location to see if there was a relation. LOL

Wish I could find a middle row bench to replace my captains then it'd be a perfect rig
i am up where the sierras meet the cascades :thumb:
and keep an eye open on both craigslist and here those pop up in fact it seems like someone was wanting to swap their bench for capitans recently. I'll try to keep you in mind if i see another deal.

The last time I saw diesel was about $3.25/gal in Miami. If I lived in California, I'd be making my own bio-diesel. When you drive a truck that barely gets 8-12 MPG, $4+ per gallon is just WAY too much to be spending on fuel unless you drive like 500-800 miles per month or something.

This is why I wish Ford would make small Rangers with small diesel engines that got 30+ MPG. I don't understand why Europe gets all of those nice economical engines and they screw us people in the US with gas hog engines.
because the gov ESPECIALLY now commiefornia make trillions a year in taxes on fuel so real fuel saving tech in outlawed because we peasants cant be cutting into the greasy corrupt politicians bottom line :doh:
 

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because the gov ESPECIALLY now commiefornia make trillions a year in taxes on fuel so real fuel saving tech in outlawed because we peasants cant be cutting into the greasy corrupt politicians bottom line :doh:
Sounds like you guys are LONG overdue for a revolution in that state. I'd start making friends with restaurant owners and start getting their used cooking oil. If you have an F-250/F-350/F-350 pickup, you might as well take advantage of having a bed and use it to carry 55 gallon drums around to make your own free fuel. :thumb:

My question to these states that charge high taxes (i.e. California, NY, CT, MA, etc)... if other states can survive just find and dandy without charging those taxes, why can't California? It sounds like that swamp hasn't been drained over there. Sometimes you can't vote these problems out of existence. Somebody needs to drain it by any means necessary.
 

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Sounds like you guys are LONG overdue for a revolution in that state. I'd start making friends with restaurant owners and start getting their used cooking oil. If you have an F-250/F-350/F-350 pickup, you might as well take advantage of having a bed and use it to carry 55 gallon drums around to make your own free fuel. :thumb:

My question to these states that charge high taxes (i.e. California, NY, CT, MA, etc)... if other states can survive just find and dandy without charging those taxes, why can't California? It sounds like that swamp hasn't been drained over there. Sometimes you can't vote these problems out of existence. Somebody needs to drain it by any means necessary.

you are correct. we are LONG overdue.
this used to be the most beautiful prosperous and job friendly state then the dirty f***ing hippies moved in from vermont and new hempshire in the late 60's through the late 70's...
and the lieberal foot hold was established for what was at the time 36 electoral votes.
now with the lies taught by the failed idiots in our schools k-looney versity ... there is no shortage of delusional mornadons living in their socialist dream world.
as a native its disgusting.
we had the thrid strongest economy on earth ahead of the fed and most other countries but now we give so much to illegalas for their votes and to criminally corrupt political hacks who couldnt hack a real job at burger king ... we cant survive without trillions a year in federal tax dollars to subsidize the criminals in excremento...
oh and of course since there wqs no tax being paced on used veggie oil and our state officials LOVE to steal tax monies...
they subsidized bio fuel so that now to buy it it costs more than regular diesel but all ther restaurants sell their used oil to the subsidized bio fuel outlet for profit...
the corruption is only exceeded by the stupidity of the voters along the coast and of course the citiots in the bay and hell a.
and yes we are over due but there is no honor in defeating the weak so it has not yet come to arms. and we may well be out numbered now its is VERY hard to tell with the insane amounts of redistricting the dems have done over the years to maintain power and now we no longer have a place to vote here and it must be done by mail...
we are a conservative area. so our votes along with the miitary must not be counted...
that is how corruption in this state works and how imbeciles like nini "it puts its vote in the basket and 0asses the bill before it can read whats in it or it gets the hose again" PIGliiosi maintain thier criminal influence over we the people :doh:
\i want my damn state back
 
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sorry for the extended rant but
"there is no after life for a place that started off as heaven"
 

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I have never heard so much hatred towards such people such as Democrats or Liberals. For the life of me, if there's much hatred towards these people, why don't they pass laws making it illegal to be a Democrat or Liberal? Think of all of the stress that would be GONE! Ship all of these people to the middle east and they can preach about socialism to those people. >:)
 

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or maybe we should ship all the Faux brainwashed haters off to some totalitarian country where they can be happy with their dictator ?

Noone remembers how bad the smog was in LA in the 60s before pollution controls... and the population now is at least 3X denser
 

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or maybe we should ship all the Faux brainwashed haters off to some totalitarian country where they can be happy with their dictator ?

Noone remembers how bad the smog was in LA in the 60s before pollution controls... and the population now is at least 3X denser
Isn't Norway forcing like 50% of their cars to be electric? Why don't they just do this in high pollution areas? And if you don't like electric cars, then you simply don't live in places where pollution collects.
 

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Is anyone running Propel HPR without an additive? I read up on the stuff (I thought) before using it and never uncovered mechanics recommend an additive because it is a very “dry” fuel.

I have run several tanks through the truck, and thought it lubricated better than Diesel #2.

Anyone heard of fuel pump damage in the 6.7 or anything of that nature?
 
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