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I know there are thousands of threads obout this but i just wanna be sure before i do anything. If I swap my dana 50 ttb for a dana 60 , what is involved. I already have a 4 inch lift kit installed with the drop pivot brackets for the 50. Would i need to get my front drive shaft shortened? do i need a new pitman arm? Anything else i should consider doing? thanks.
 

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The driveshaft will bolt right up, and you can use the 250 leafs, I know steering components are different so Im gonna subscribe as Ill be doing this in the next month
 

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When I did mine, I was needing to do some steering replacement on the 50, so it was perfect timing. I dropped the whole assembly as one piece. The front drive shaft bolted right up to the 60. The brake calipers (fairly new / great pads) swapped right over (didn't have to bleed the system). The steering components are different. I also pulled the 50 leaf springs and replaced with 350 leafs. Want to do the RSK/PSD swap in the future though. I have heard about the 250 springs not being too good on the 60, that they will work temporarily, but not recommended (again, no personal experience). The pittman arm from the 250 was retained and it kept things in line. Make sure that you get the track bar bracket and bar from the donor, along with the drivers side (if I remember correctly) leaf spring/u-bolt plates (have heard they are hard to get).

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When I did mine, I was needing to do some steering replacement on the 50, so it was perfect timing. I dropped the whole assembly as one piece. The front drive shaft bolted right up to the 60. The brake calipers (fairly new / great pads) swapped right over (didn't have to bleed the system). The steering components are different. I also pulled the 50 leaf springs and replaced with 350 leafs. Want to do the RSK/PSD swap in the future though. I have heard about the 250 springs not being too good on the 60, that they will work temporarily, but not recommended (again, no personal experience). The pittman arm from the 250 was retained and it kept things in line. Make sure that you get the track bar bracket and bar from the donor, along with the drivers side (if I remember correctly) leaf spring/u-bolt plates (have heard they are hard to get).

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thats what i need yet. I have the part #'s . you can get them at the dealer about $200
E5TZ-5A316A u-bolt plate List price $84.25
E5TZ-3A093A track bar mount List price $72.58 about 8 months ago
 

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Thanks for the info, i already have lift springs on the front so i dont have to worry about the old pos stock ones from being adequate. Anyone know how much goes into rebuilding these. not looking to put in a locker or anything, just bearings and ball joints.
 

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do you need the track bar, does it significatly increase the handling of the truck or can i do without it?
 

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I have heard both sides..some saying you need it and others saying they run without it. I have it on mine since the donor axle came with it all, I figured why not. I can say that on my truck I don't have any leaning issues, nor wandering as I am driving. Just my 2 cents worth...
 

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probably a better idea if you have it i guess. Another question :p how much would one pay maximum for a dana 60
 

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Now that is a hard one...2 years ago, I paid $800 for mine complete (they just cut the leaf springs so it had everything I needed. I have seen them as high as $1500 and as low as $600. Just depends on where you are and the supply/demand. I was lucky in my find as to have all plates/brackets, etc. Some I have seen are just the axle itself and you have to dig for the other parts. Hope this helps.
 

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ok that about what ive been seeing them listed for. Final question..hopefully :p is it worth it? does the ride quality decrease at all? Does it feel different driving? I know i have an f350 gasser at work and it handles horribly, whenever you hit a bump the whole steering wheel turns. How different is the feel?
 

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Well, for me it comes down to dependability. The TTB 50 I had needed all the bushings and steering links replaced in it. So, going down the road it wanted to wander quite a bit. I also wanted to re-gear from 4:10 to 3:56. The D60 I got was already geared for 3:56. So I looked at the savings for me and it was a no brainer. As far as the ride, it isn't as "comfortable" as the TTB50 was YEARS ago when the bushings and all were in great shape, when the leaf springs weren't so saggy (only had 3/4" btwn the spring and bump stop) just due to the fact of the way the TTB is designed. But, if the bushings were in good shape, I still would swap...that is just me. The D60 is a much stronger axle, tire wear will decrease, and the steering is great. Now, I completely re-did the steering linkage with all new moog parts. It is tight and no problems. I still want to do the RSK/SD springs for a softer, better ride, but didn't have the budget for that then. If you do, I would highly recommend it!! A buddy did it and it is a completely different ride. I hope this helps somewhat.
 

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When I did mine, ..............QUOTE]

Did you get any lift out of the swap? I have an add-a-leaf and will be doing the d60 swap in the near future and I was wondering if I will be level, higher, or lower than I am now.

From talking with others that have done this mod I have found all kind of different outcomes.
 

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thanks for all the info, i think im going do it. ive heard that the d60 does make the truck sit a little high but not noticable. I dont have to worry about the sag of the facrtory springs, i already have 4 inch lift springs in the front, which is the whole reason im doing this, the lifted acle pivot brackets are a pita and look like a weak point.
 

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For what I understand, the D60 will make it sit 1" higher than the TTB50, just based on the spring mounting area. You mention the axle pivot brackets...those would be discarded with the swap. I hope I didn't read your post wrong in that you were gonna retain them.
 

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Only way to really get a great ride quality is to use a RS kit and frt and rear SD springs. using them with a D60 and 4" rear blocks the truck will set level. A lower kit is in the works.

Note do not use this mod with a D50!
I have helped hundreds over the last 8 years do this since I first modded my truck.
PM me if I can help.

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no im not reataining them, that would make a mess outta my oil pan when i hit a bump :p

Does anyone know anything about using an older kingpin axle to convert over too? i might be able to get one pretty close for a good price, will the brakes and all be the same?
 
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