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Why burn waste veggie if its eco friendly .......? Honestly, enjoy cancer.

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Hey Irk,
Who said we are doing this to be tree huggers??? I'm doing it cause I only make 27k a year and have 2 kids to put in college!!:doh:
 

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Why not just recycle the cubbies? Instead maybe you can exchange them out with the restaurant old for new? Plastic an't so good to breath in when burned. Also not to great for air quality in general. Why burn waste veggie if its eco friendly but than burn the plastic it comes in? Honestly, enjoy cancer.

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Hey Irk,
Who said we are doing this to be tree huggers??? I'm doing it cause I only make 27k a year and have 2 kids to put in college!!:doh:
First of all....why dont you leave the whole quote he made?.....u totally twisted the point he was making. That is just an ignorant statement if you supporting burning plastic in a burn pile.

I think the theory of man causing global warming is just a hoax.....but even that said, why the hell add terrible chemicals to the air by burning plastic when a trip to the recycling center will get the plastic taken care of without exposing yourself and others to those chemicals. I dont think we need to be near as carefull environmentally as a lot of people, but why would you want to "add fuel to the fire" and put those nasty chemicals in the air just because your too lazy to go to a recycling center. Some people JUST DONT GET IT.
 

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In defense of h2odrx...the last three words of the poster was: "Honestly, enjoy cancer." ,WAS an unnecessary "cheap shot"
(Not a great way to make friends and influence people during a first post)
 

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In defense of h2odrx...the last three words of the poster was: "Honestly, enjoy cancer." ,WAS an unnecessary "cheap shot"
(Not a great way to make friends and influence people during a first post)
I agree 100%. Lost my mom to it. Not funny at all.
 

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In defense of h2odrx...the last three words of the poster was: "Honestly, enjoy cancer." ,WAS an unnecessary "cheap shot"
(Not a great way to make friends and influence people during a first post)
I will give you that, it was a tacky statement.......Regardless the point of the message that was posted in responce was just ignorant IMO
 

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Well without the complete picture none of you can state which is more harmful, burning them or taking them to a recycling center. In a vast part of this country the closes "recycling center" may be 100's of miles away. You'll produce a lot more "terrible chemicals to the air" driving than just burning them off.

I'd be willing to bet you could go to any chemical plant in the US and get more terrible chemicals being released in the air in one day than a dozen greasers burning their cubies for a life time.

This amounts to blaming flooding on someone because they pee'd in the river. :rolleyes:
 

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Well without the complete picture none of you can state which is more harmful, burning them or taking them to a recycling center. In a vast part of this country the closes "recycling center" may be 100's of miles away. You'll produce a lot more "terrible chemicals to the air" driving than just burning them off.
Thats another rediculous statement. The way this country is now damn near every decent sized town has at least a drop off box for recycling. If you live in a town or area that doesnt have one.....odds are you have to drive to a town that does just to be able to get groceries, etc. I was born and raised in montana....i know all about spread out areas and there is virtually nobody in that state that doesnt live in a town with access to at least a recycling drop off box or that doesnt have to go to one of those towns for at least their houshold supplies.:nod:

I'd be willing to bet you could go to any chemical plant in the US and get more terrible chemicals being released in the air in one day than a dozen greasers burning their cubies for a life time.
IC....so that makes it right? I can go to any tar factory and probably find 100 times more oil thats been spilled on the ground than i could ever go through in a lifetime.....i suppose that makes it ok for me to just poor my oil out on the dirt by my house too?:crazy:
This amounts to blaming flooding on someone because they pee'd in the river. :rolleyes:
HAHA....funny guy:hehe: but if everyone pees in the river it just might flood....and if its ok for one guy to do it...why cant everyone else:doh:

I love how some people rationalize things in rediculous ways rather than just do whats right. I think evironmentalists take things WAY too far....but then idiots doing stupid things and rationalizing them in ways that just dont make sence have to ruin it for all of us. Think about this....if we take care of the environment in a reasonable way (dispose of your oil properly, dont burn dangerous things, dont litter, recycle) your grandkids and thier grandkids just might have a place they can enjoy the way you did as a kid too........OHHH...but i forgot...its ok for one or two guys to do things that would ruin that becuase they might have to store a little plastic jug or two for a couple weeks till the next time they go to town:doh:
 

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In defense of h2odrx...the last three words of the poster was: "Honestly, enjoy cancer." ,WAS an unnecessary "cheap shot"
(Not a great way to make friends and influence people during a first post)
That is why I cut up the quote, When I read it it floored me. IFI were to burn some cubbies it would not amount to much.



I agree 100%. Lost my mom to it. Not funny at all.
Sorry to hear the loss, my mom just had a mastectomy so I know what you mean.
 

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Hey Irk,
Who said we are doing this to be tree huggers??? I'm doing it cause I only make 27k a year and have 2 kids to put in college!!:doh:
I honestly can say no one is purely burning veggie oil/biodiesel, running wood furnaces in the winter, generating electricity from micro turbines, or using solar water heaters all in the name of the environment. Energy independence, economical reasons, and an overall better running engine are just some of the other reasons we burn biodiesel or waste veggie oil in diesel engines. You don't have to be a tree hugger to care about the air we breath, the soil we grow crops in, or the water we drink. Keep adding plastic to the fire, see if I care. By the way, can I have your address so I can poor my used motor oil in your water?! I mean have some sense. Educate yourself sir or madam on the effects of burnt plastic. The "not in the my backyard" mentally is tired and old. Keep it in the 20th century where it belongs.

While you may not be a major petrol chemical corporation, every little bit helps. Here is an analogy for ya. I bet your change jar adds up over time. After all, those pennies,nickels, dimes, and quarters help that 27K a year income when you need a little extra fuel,food, or in need of paying a bill. Well the chemicals emitted into the air, one carboy burned at a time, adds up to the amount of chemicals we all breath, eat, and drink. Enlighten your consciousness.

Switch out the old ones for new ones with the people you collect the WVO. Make use of what you already have while trying to cut down on excess waste. Do it, don't do it. Just don't brag about how you burning plastic and except to not get sh*t for it.

One more thing, you want to insult someone... anyone. have sense and at least use their name? Who is irk?!

Erik
 

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I love how some people rationalize things in rediculous ways rather than just do whats right.
Well if that was pointed at me maybe you should go back and read my post again. Did you see me saying anything about what was right or wrong? Try reading the first 14 words. Very bad assumption on your part that I was rationalizing anything "instead" of doing whats right.

BTW, nice rationalizing on your part that there's a recycling center on every corner. Did you say everyone lives near one or virtually everyone? I'd think if virtually everyone lives by one then there just might be a few who don't? maybe? :dunno:

BTW, I pee'd in the river today. :thumb:
 

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In defense of h2odrx...the last three words of the poster was: "Honestly, enjoy cancer." ,WAS an unnecessary "cheap shot"
(Not a great way to make friends and influence people during a first post)


I had this whole post on plastics and cancer and then my computer crashed. :doh: To those who are offended I'm sorry. However, keep in mind that dioxins found in burnt plastic fumes are a well known carcinogen plain and simple. When you endanger your own life, have at it. Nevertheless, when you do the same to others by exposing toxic smoke to the air than shame on you. Ignorance and arrogance does not give any one individual the right to tarnish the rest of every one else's health. Clearly bragging about burning plastic carboys in an open fire simply shows no regards to even his or her own health. This is why I put it bluntly, 'honestly enjoy cancer'.

The disease is a tragic one that I have witnessed, first hand, on multiply accounts. From what affects it has on the patient, to how the families suffer for their loved ones, or simply how it takes a toll on both family and patient alike over time. More importantly, it has shown me how the human spirit is the strongest thing anyone of us posses. Through thick and thin, the fight goes on for better or worse.

However, in the name of not high jacking this thread, I believe the subject was 'Collecting WVO -- 5 gal plastic bucket?'.

Several people have done it using just that, a 5 gallon bucket. By all means if you do not have a lift gate on your truck to haul a 55 gallon drum, it tends to be the only way to actually do it. Some plastic buckets are thicker than others. Those 5 gallon orange ones from home depot are a little on the thin side in my honest opinion. My grandpa does volunteer work for his association and got me five (5) gallon buckets that they would have tossed out. They were used to hold pool chemicals, so they even came with screw on lids and even had hazard signs on them. All I did was wash them out good with soap and water. I find them to work great for holding WVO and have had no problems with hot oil. My Thai joint I currently go to dumps the oil in hot and I pick tehm up at room temp. The buckets honestly have just started to be used but currently I have seen no warping what so ever. Find some good used ones that you can clean out before you go off and buy some.

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I had this whole post on plastics and cancer and then my computer crashed. :doh: To those who are offended I'm sorry. However, keep in mind that dioxins found in burnt plastic fumes are a well known carcinogen plain and simple. When you endanger your own life, have at it. Nevertheless, when you do the same to others by exposing toxic smoke to the air than shame on you. Ignorance and arrogance does not give any one individual the right to tarnish the rest of every one else's health. Clearly bragging about burning plastic carboys in an open fire simply shows no regards to even his or her own health. This is why I put it bluntly, 'honestly enjoy cancer'.

The disease is a tragic one that I have witnessed, first hand, on multiply accounts. From what affects it has on the patient, to how the families suffer for their loved ones, or simply how it takes a toll on both family and patient alike over time. More importantly, it has shown me how the human spirit is the strongest thing anyone of us posses. Through thick and thin, the fight goes on for better or worse.

However, in the name of not high jacking this thread, I believe the subject was 'Collecting WVO -- 5 gal plastic bucket?'.

Several people have done it using just that, a 5 gallon bucket. By all means if you do not have a lift gate on your truck to haul a 55 gallon drum, it tends to be the only way to actually do it. Some plastic buckets are thicker than others. Those 5 gallon orange ones from home depot are a little on the thin side in my honest opinion. My grandpa does volunteer work for his association and got me five (5) gallon buckets that they would have tossed out. They were used to hold pool chemicals, so they even came with screw on lids and even had hazard signs on them. All I did was wash them out good with soap and water. I find them to work great for holding WVO and have had no problems with hot oil. My Thai joint I currently go to dumps the oil in hot and I pick tehm up at room temp. The buckets honestly have just started to be used but currently I have seen no warping what so ever. Find some good used ones that you can clean out before you go off and buy some.

Erik
Yes...burning plastics can be bad.Its better to inform than attack.

WDNR - Open Burning - Effects of Agricultural Plastics

"Some of the most dangerous chemicals created and released during burning some types of plastic are dioxins; learn more on the dioxin page in this section. Dioxins, which are byproducts formed when chlorine-containing products are burned, tend to adhere to the waxy surface of leaves and then enter the food chain. Even if certain types of plastic (such as polyethylene or polypropylene) do not contain chlorine, other materials attached to or burned with the plastic may be a chlorine source.



It's even better to be completely informed.Cubies ,I assume ,are food grade plastics ( i could be wrong tho) Food grade plastics are usually made from
polyethylene or polypropylene,which I believe are not made using chlorine(unless of course it comes from china,then anything goes)

Personally , I wish the use and manufacture of plastics was greatly reduced in this world.Too many trashy products and Too much trash ending up where it dont belong with many many years before it degrades.Bring back glass bottles,please .I am sure glad you can still buy BEER in bottles!!:nod:
 

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Well if that was pointed at me maybe you should go back and read my post again. Did you see me saying anything about what was right or wrong? Try reading the first 14 words. Very bad assumption on your part that I was rationalizing anything "instead" of doing whats right.
Below is your quote.....You tell me what part of that wasnt defending burning plastic.....was it the part about chemical plants putting off more chemicals or the part about emmissions......?
Well without the complete picture none of you can state which is more harmful, burning them or taking them to a recycling center. In a vast part of this country the closes "recycling center" may be 100's of miles away. You'll produce a lot more "terrible chemicals to the air" driving than just burning them off.

I'd be willing to bet you could go to any chemical plant in the US and get more terrible chemicals being released in the air in one day than a dozen greasers burning their cubies for a life time.

BTW, nice rationalizing on your part that there's a recycling center on every corner. Did you say everyone lives near one or virtually everyone? I'd think if virtually everyone lives by one then there just might be a few who don't? maybe? :dunno:
I did not say there was a recycling center on every corner....i said almost every decent sized town anymore has at least a dropp off box....and that ALMOST every person in this country at some point during thier monthly activities has access to one. Weather its the guy that lives 60 miles from the town that has to go to town every two weeks for groceries, etc....or the guy in the large city that has a recylcing can that comes with his trash collection.....just about everyone in this country could easily recycle if they would not be too worried about the inconvenience to them......Im sorry if they might have to store the stuff till the next time they go to town:dunno: I never said they were on every street corner.....but there are PLENTY of recycling centers and dropp off bins in this country to be able to recycle if you were to be willing to do a little extra:nod:


BTW, I pee'd in the river today. :thumb:
Im glad to hear that tying a string to it fixed your little problem:thumb:
 

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I'm still new to this site and didn't want to see people going back and forth about burning cubies. :rofl:

Anyway, based on everything I've been hearing about hot oil and cubies/5 gallon buckets, I think my best bet is to set up a 55 gallon drum (steel, of course) out behind the restaurants I'm partnering with. I'm going to ask them to save their cubes so I can drain the oil into them for transport back to my garage.....

I've heard of too many cubies failing and have to believe that the 5 gallon buckets would do the same.

Again, thanks everyone :thumb:

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Im glad to hear that tying a string to it fixed your little problem:thumb:
How old are you? :dunno:

The only defending I've done of burning cubies is if its the lesser of two evils and stated you can't make an informed decision without knowing the circumstances. Very poor reading comprehension on your part. The chemical plant comments was for you.... maybe you should take your fight to where it counts.... or is it only the totally insignificant amounts you have your duff all bothered over? Visit any farm in your area and ask to visit their burn pile. Stop by any house out in the countryside, most of them have burn piles.

I'm actually quite amused that this greaser has offended you so. Its less than a grain of sand in the desert but if it makes you feel like you've made a difference then have at him.

Sorry Snake, I'll bow out of the hijack.
 

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How old are you? :dunno:


I'm actually quite amused that this greaser has offended you so. Its less than a grain of sand in the desert but if it makes you feel like you've made a difference then have at him.

Sorry Snake, I'll bow out of the hijack.
Not to go more off the subject but its that very grain of sand that makes up the desert. Small things add up fast...
 

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Well I am a little late entering this thread but I am thinking of getting a 200gal tank for transport in the truck and using a 10-15gpm 12v fuel transfer pump to get the WVO from the holding tank. That seems like a lot to go through but I just found a source for WVO that goes through between 120-200 gals every week. Right now they are running 6 fryers at 10gals each and come Sept. it goes to 10 fryers. They change their fryers out twice a week. Best thing is it is all at one place and I really don't have to even go out of my way to collect it. I have arranged to haul away all of the WVO from the cafeteria at the University where I work. Right now they have 150gals they want me to get rid of asap. I am going to need some big storage tanks in the garage for this stuff. I am looking into that right now. I haven't decide whether I want to go to a Vegistroke setup or go into biodiesel production. I am leaning toward biodiesel because I really don't want the extra tank an bs that goes with it in my truck bed. Where do you find 55gal drums?
 
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