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Hey Cali guys and Girls,

My truck is stock at the moment, I looking into Intake , Exhaust and programmer, However I may be getting orders to CA. Just wondering about restrictions for diesels and 1tons, I know in NY !tons do not have to be sniffed. Just wondering if there is anything I should keep in mind before I start spending money and then cant get my truck to pass emmissions??? Thanks

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Keep your truck registered out of state :dunno:

allegedly that doesn't protect folks anymore, my dad was all stupified and put his cat, muffler and stock intake on just to see NHRA at infineon. WTF? I wouldn't've. He later hollowed his cat and put a different muffler back into his 4" summit turbo back system and left his stock intake on because the aem was causing response issues.

I keep mine registered in Nv so Wi can't bother me with headlight height or tire offset or my straight pipe.
 

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I concur with Ironmover. Keep it registered out of state assuming you are military (based on you stating that you are receiving orders). This will prevent you from having to have it inspected again until the vehicle physically returns to it's licensed state.
 

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I concur with Ironmover. Keep it registered out of state assuming you are military (based on you stating that you are receiving orders). This will prevent you from having to have it inspected again until the vehicle physically returns to it's licensed state.
Well eventually the inspection sticker will expire, (VA) and I'm a NY resident, neither of which I could get an inspection sticker mailed, the expired sticker will just be a reason to be pulled over.
 

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Negative. If you are military and stationed out of state. You don't have to keep a current inspection on the vehicle unless it is in the state that it is licensed in. They wont pull you over for it. However, you do have to maintain the registration.
 

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I havent had to 'smog' yet but lets just say i am quite the rebel... i can make the pcm pass, just gotta find someone visually nice.
 

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if you get cat delete pipe that will allow you to put your cat back on, and get a muffler delete pipe or cat back exhasut system, you do not need a muffler to smog your truck

I unplug my egr valve and plug it back in to smog it.

Look at my link for the up-pipe mod to prevent the egr flow code but still limiting the damaging effects and restriction effects of the egr system. 2005.5 and up get the exhasut flow code. 2005.5 -2003 do not get flow codes so they can block the cooler with out codes.
 

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Incorrect Steve. Mine is an '04 that has never been flashed. Five codes are present in mine, I'm fully deleted including the throttle plate assembly. I bought a custom fabricated aluminum elbow from a member in Georgia so I could get rid of that garbage and the cooler is deleted. Valve is gone and a stainless steel uppipe delivers exhaust to the rams horn.

I wouldn't worry or spend my money on a cai. Flip a coin if you want to delete your cat is the only thing to consider about your exhaust. For the most part all the kits are the same. My recommendation is price out individual components if you're capable of a little bit a fab work such as hanging the exhaust and take a look at diamond eye down pipes. Great price and great fit with absolutely no damaging modifications like beating on your firewall or denting pipes.

For a tuner, SCT all the way. Most are happy with innovatives files but the guys who are more picky try gearhead, kem or quicktricks for custom tuning.
 

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@ IronMover, I was told the stock intake is good to 500 HP, it was more for looks, I want 4' turbo back exhaust w/ 5" stack(s) (also, read on here somewhere that getting rid of the muffler does more for EGT's then the cat delete does), I just want to get this thing breathing before I start playing with the power. I know theres a few things I should change up top as well but Im not too sure what they are ( hence my screen name LOL :dunno: )
 

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I got stationed at Travis two years ago and keep my vehicles registered in wisconsin. This base makes you have a window decal if you have out of state plates. To get the decal I had to show a smog check certificate. Hope fully other bases aren't the same.
 

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I have no experience with emissions but if it were possible, shouldn't he just get a current inspection while he's stock then he is covered for awhile.

Yea, definetely go 4" but I would recommend 6" stacks. 5" just does not look right, people that have done that looks like they put motorcycle pipes on their truck. If you're going duals, it gets a little more expensive because you need the y pipe and two elbows now plus one extra stack. If you're not worried about a chrome stack setup, you could do like I did and use silo auger pipe. I bought 5' of 12ga for less than $60. Mines power coated and still half the price of one stack plus I highly prefer the look of continous diameter not the reducer style ones on the market.

What are you refering to as stuff on top?

Most commonly an egr delete, exhaust and good custom tuning is all you need for a great performing truck. A coolant flush and filter are highly recommended. You need an ELC that carries the cat EC-1 rating. A monitor like an edge insight help you watch your egts and the oil and coolant temperature delta. This will tell you if your oil cooler is junk. Down the road you could do headstuds and beyond but alot of guys are gettin by if theirs haven't already failed.
 

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Negative. If you are military and stationed out of state. You don't have to keep a current inspection on the vehicle unless it is in the state that it is licensed in. They wont pull you over for it. However, you do have to maintain the registration.
:ditto: Correct. Don't ever register your vehicle in CA! Only reason I did is b/c I left active duty and got a civilian job out here. Don't do that either! Now the state is going to hell in a hand basket and I'm stuck!

Having it registered out of state will save you from having to follow all the silly rules we have.
 

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All Marine Bases require a decal and an inspection :doh:
 

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Incorrect Steve. Mine is an '04 that has never been flashed. Five codes are present in mine, I'm fully deleted including the throttle plate assembly. I bought a custom fabricated aluminum elbow from a member in Georgia so I could get rid of that garbage and the cooler is deleted. Valve is gone and a stainless steel uppipe delivers exhaust to the rams horn.

I wouldn't worry or spend my money on a cai. Flip a coin if you want to delete your cat is the only thing to consider about your exhaust. For the most part all the kits are the same. My recommendation is price out individual components if you're capable of a little bit a fab work such as hanging the exhaust and take a look at diamond eye down pipes. Great price and great fit with absolutely no damaging modifications like beating on your firewall or denting pipes.

For a tuner, SCT all the way. Most are happy with innovatives files but the guys who are more picky try gearhead, kem or quicktricks for custom tuning.
What are the code?
 

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The out of state plates and reg are only good if you're TAD. If CA is your permanent duty station, you have 6 weeks to transfer your reg and smog your vehicle. It's the pits but that's what it is.

There are counties in Ca that do not have smog requirements and don't require checks. Yep, that's hard to believe but true. Seems if you have enough money (grow enough grapes) you can influence local govt. There are minimum and maximum enforcement standards and it's left up to the local municipalities as to how strict they want to be.

That said, there is nowhere in California that allows the modification of factory vehicle emissions equipment unless the modification has been granted a CARB approval number.

My K&N intake system came with a metal adhesive sticker which I've attached to the airbox heat shield. I also got a copy of the exemption and put it in the glove box and K&N gives you a card to carry with instructions for mechanics and smog techs whose knowledge of the law is rumor based. Unfortunately, a lot of these places, including Ford Dealerships work more on rumor than fact.

Edge currently has a number of CARB approval requests for their CT and CTS tuners. Max gain is 100hp on those units and there is an outside chance they'll get approved but I doubt it. You might see a special edition with something like a 25hp gain that gets through. Hardly worth the money.

One last thing, if you remove any portion of the emissions systems you are in violation of state law and will be prosecuted. The gentleman that thought his dad was going overboard by putting his smog stuff back on just to see NASCAR in Sonoma, CA should be proud of his Dad instead. They can and will impound the vehicle if they determine it was intentionally modified. There's big bucks in towing and storage kickbacks to local law enforcement. Yeah, they deny it but you gotta know it's true.
 

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I'm that guy. He went to see NHRA. He lives in Nevada. I drove my truck quite a bit over there as well straight pipe, deleted egr system, no mud flaps, tires protruding the body and an aftermarket suspension system. Back when I had my mustang I was pulled over for probable cause because it was very loud. The chp asked me twenty questions but couldn't enforce anything because I was out of state visiting for the day in Sacramento. Instead of having the mentality of oh no we better do what they say, we need to question authority and quit letting the government push us around!!!

Steve, I had all of the P04** egr codes. Mainstream data, insufficient flow, open circuit, circuit faults and I can't remember what else and of course what I just listed is only a vague memory of mine. I'm tuned now so I don't have to worry about them no more. It's the '05 and builds that go into limp mode is what the difference is.




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The out of state plates and reg are only good if you're TAD. If CA is your permanent duty station, you have 6 weeks to transfer your reg and smog your vehicle. It's the pits but that's what it is.
I was stationed there for 2 years (Dec. 2008-Dec. 2010) and this was not the case for me or any of the other individuals that I was stationed with. They can not force you to register your vehicle in a state that is not your home of record IF you are active duty military, regardless of how long you are stationed there. I even bought a SUV and a motorcycle while there, and once the registration was up I registered them via mail in Texas. No problems, no inspections, no smog.
 

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All Marine Bases require a decal and an inspection :doh:
All bases require a decal, but I have not heard of any base requiring a current inspection (unless it is registered in the state that you are stationed in). That sounds like it is someone working the desk that does not know the law. If your vehicle is registered out of state, they require a copy of your orders, your ID, and current registration.
 

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Lastly, regardless of what the base requires, I will never be stationed in CA again if I can help it. That is the most socialist, anti-2nd ammendment, anti-American state that I have ever been in.
 

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The Servicemens' Civil Relief Act (SCRA) of 2003 replaced the Soldiers' and Sailors' Civil Relief Act (SSCRA) of 1941. Under SCRA (and SSCRA earlier), military members are not required to register vehicles into the state of their assignment upon receipt of permanent change of station orders. Any military base (even in California) will have various state license plates displayed (legally).

There is the validation of this fact on the California DMV webpage:
Vehicle Information for Military Personnel in California

...As for Safety Inspections - this is a different case...
Proper registration (in whatever state) usually includes the requirement of an annual Safety Inspection (not necessarily including an emissions test but this varies). In the case of Texas (my home state...stationed in Mississippi now:
TxDPS - Out-of-State Motorists

As you see in the Texas Out-of-State description, some states do in-fact have registration and inspection coupled. In these states, ordinarily, out-of-state tags are honored. In the case of California, complete this form:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/reg/reg5045.pdf

On-base access documentation (military access stickers) require the registration documents, insurance documents, and military identification (in some cases the actual orders of assignment in addition to your ID card).

These are three distinct "registrations" although in some cases there are only two. On-base "registration" is not available to the public in most cases. The state vehicle registration and safety inspection may be separate (Texas puts the inspection sticker INSIDE the vehicle along with the registration sticker instead of on the license plate as other states do).

Registering your truck in California is your decision if you are moving under military orders. You are NOT obligated to register in California within any period of time - but you are required to maintain proper registration (in your home state). Be advised though that California WILL look at your vehicle if given the opportunity (like at a snap DUI station...so any delete of a catalytic converter will be a ticketable offense - I wouldn't worry about an EGR delete as this is buried too deep for a cursory inspection - but the CAT is an obvious item on the truck). Emissions violations run steep - be prepared in that regard but don't sweat the license plate.

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