Short of doing the Carli King coilover kit with front and rear bypasses your best riding setup with be the Pintop with full leafs.is there any better suspension option than the carli pin top???
True the travel is decreased but that's a deceiving answer to someone who doesn't understand suspension. No one is getting 15" of travel out of these trucks, a .5-1" is negligable and, when properly tuned, nearly un-noticable... If what george is suggesting is a coilover/bypass setup, you're correct in that the travel will be shorter than an independant coil/shock setup but the way the travel is handled with tunable zones via the bypass tubes, the coilover/bypass will outperform nearly any other setup.At the 4 to 4.5" lift height you will actually get better travel and better performance out of a coil spring and shock combo. Removing the OEM spring/shock mount from the frame and going up under the hood with a hoop to mount a set of coil overs would be the only way to get more travel. Unfortunely coil overs are limited in packaging by their construction. It sucks because we make coil overs too. Very disappointing.
JP
Agreed.You are correct, the radius arms in full axle movement conditions use up all the travel nicely, but when it comes to articulation and fast whoops that are uneven, you will notice alot less jounce in the vehicle with a good 4 link versus the radius arm setup. Just food for thought.
JP
Way too broad a statement. Most would not be able to tell "seat of the pants feel" if they were in a 4-link vs. radius arm. Guys like us, most likely would given all other variables the same. To say the travel will never be used on the street is also incorrect. Further, to say the ride is not even close is a false statement. The ride is better with a 4-link but only under extreme conditions, as mentioned by Pure above, is it more than negligable.Stock arms..can have Travel yes...ride better no not even close to 4 link arms..the stock arms bind. Ride quality is much more important than total travel that for the street will never be used.
I drive those highways every day. I live in southern californina and have some of the worst streets in the US out here. That is a rediculous statement as I have been in a 4-link and radius arm setup and again, the difference is negligable at best all other variables held constant. I have bottomed out, full drooped and fully articulated on the city roads of orange county, not hard to find it if you're looking for it.Not in the least..you would need to be dead not to notice the difference unless you were driving on perfectly smooth roads..try driving on the lousy Hyways we have out west.
So just how are you using more than stock travel on the street...I've never bottomed or toped out any truck except a stock Excursion and a OBS TTB on the street in 500k miles of driving.
You guys should try this one out!I drive those highways every day. I live in southern californina and have some of the worst streets in the US out here. That is a rediculous statement as I have been in a 4-link and radius arm setup and again, the difference is negligable at best all other variables held constant. I have bottomed out, full drooped and fully articulated on the city roads of orange county, not hard to find it if you're looking for it.
When you get a decent suspension you start looking for the worst ways to get to work...I guess I'm not looking for it then...
What 4 link kits have you been in..
LMAO! that is the coolest thing I've ever seen. I'm going to hunt that down!
I rode in your Dodge long arms around a year and a half ago. Not sure if they were new or old but they were awesome units. Only thing i didn't like was the removal of the stock control arm mounts.OCVeloMan
Which Dodge Long Arm, New Style or Old Style?
Our new 4 Link Super Duty Stuff is pretty tight! As is your products.
JP
I have, an icon 4-Link. I haven't ridden in the pure 4-Link yet (for a SD).OCVeloMan
I think once you ride in a 4 link'd SD you will change your mind...