I'm new the the forum, not new to Ford. I'm on my second 6.0. I didn't sell the first one because it was awful. I sold it because when you have to get a real job after the military, life is much more expensive! I miss my 03 F250 crew cab lariat, 6 speed manual, but i love my 03 Excursion. Tad bit more convenient for my three turds in carseats.