I'm in SE Pennsylvania. Rebates are regional, depends where they need to move inventory. When I bought my '11, the '12s had about 4k in rebates where as other areas were getting 6k. I went with the '11 to get the better deal. You'll start to see better rebates if the '12s are still sitting on the lots in the next few months.That is what I'm thinking. Tried to pry at the dealer some to see if he would tell me anything but nothing. What part of the country you in?