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295/65/20 and Load Range E Concerns / Help Needed

I have a 2016 F-250 4wd w/ a 1.5 level coil and Fox 2.0's that needs some rubber sizing help.

Through my search I have learned that not all load range E tires are the same (I'm an idiot.....) and noticed each tire has an independent weight rating based on specific sizing. I'm after a slightly larger, more aggressive tire to suit the needs of forest service, gravel, and unimproved double track roads. Note, I log 70k miles per year and majority of my driving is on pavement/interstate w/ approx 500-800lbs in the bed, and I rarely pull.

Currently, the truck has new BFG AT KO2s in a 295/65-20s w/ 35psi in rear and 50psi in front and she rides like an unloaded DRW w/ 80psi outback (no offense DRW guys...). When the truck takes square edge hits, washboards, or slow speed bumps I feel the jarring effect out back, so much that if you're having a conversation, you can feel the effect reverberate in your voice.

I understand the 295/65-20 size has a 4080lbs rating vs what I was previously running @ 3750lb in a Michelin LTX AT2.

If I downsize to a 285/65-20, BFG AT KO2, the load rating is 3860lbs., a difference of 220lbs. Will this make enough difference to increase ride quality and take away the slow speed "jarring" I'm experiencing?

Last, I'm not afraid to upgrade the suspension to assist w/ ride quality and performance. I have ordered a set of Fox 2.0's from Carli that are tuned for F-250 platform and plan to swap these in place of my current Fox tuned 2.0's. Additionally, it's not out of the question to install the Carli 2.5 level coils and possibly the Deaver full spring pack outback if it's worth it from a ride quality perspective.

Thanks for the input in advance!
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Spend the money on new wheels and tires in the 18" range. MUCH better ride and will have the 4k+ load rating.



Not to mention the Carli kits are clearly giving the same recommendations as that's what's going to ride best with their components/lifts.



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Spend the money on new wheels and tires in the 18" range. MUCH better ride and will have the 4k+ load rating.



Not to mention the Carli kits are clearly giving the same recommendations as that's what's going to ride best with their components/lifts.
You’re spot on. Who’s got some OEM 18”s? read: 2020 Tremor wheels......?

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Personally spend that money on some Methods if they have a pattern you would enjoy.



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I have a 2016 F-250 4wd w/ a 1.5 level coil and Fox 2.0's that needs some rubber sizing help.

Through my search I have learned that not all load range E tires are the same (I'm an idiot.....) and noticed each tire has an independent weight rating based on specific sizing. I'm after a slightly larger, more aggressive tire to suit the needs of forest service, gravel, and unimproved double track roads. Note, I log 70k miles per year and majority of my driving is on pavement/interstate w/ approx 500-800lbs in the bed, and I rarely pull.

Currently, the truck has new BFG AT KO2s in a 295/65-20s w/ 35psi in rear and 50psi in front and she rides like an unloaded DRW w/ 80psi outback (no offense DRW guys...). When the truck takes square edge hits, washboards, or slow speed bumps I feel the jarring effect out back, so much that if you're having a conversation, you can feel the effect reverberate in your voice.

I understand the 295/65-20 size has a 4080lbs rating vs what I was previously running @ 3750lb in a Michelin LTX AT2.

If I downsize to a 285/65-20, BFG AT KO2, the load rating is 3860lbs., a difference of 220lbs. Will this make enough difference to increase ride quality and take away the slow speed "jarring" I'm experiencing?

Last, I'm not afraid to upgrade the suspension to assist w/ ride quality and performance. I have ordered a set of Fox 2.0's from Carli that are tuned for F-250 platform and plan to swap these in place of my current Fox tuned 2.0's. Additionally, it's not out of the question to install the Carli 2.5 level coils and possibly the Deaver full spring pack outback if it's worth it from a ride quality perspective.

Thanks for the input in advance!

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Generally speaking the best way to increase the ride quality is to increase the sidewall height, however there is a trade off, the taller the sidewall the less steering response you will typically have.

To directly answer your question, If the end goal is to increase your ride quality dropping from a 295/65R20 to a 285/65R20 wont net you the results you are looking for.

As HeavyAssault mentioned the best way to really resolve this would be to drop down to an 18 inch wheel combo which will greatly increase your ride quality.

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Thoughts on running 17" wheels (looking at Method and Black Rhino's) w/ 37x12.50r17 BFG AT KO2s, load range D (3500lb rating...)?

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Thoughts on running 17" wheels (looking at Method and Black Rhino's) w/ 37x12.50r17 BFG AT KO2s, load range D (3500lb rating...)?
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Dropping to a 17" wheel and up to a 37" tire should absorb a lot of the bumps in the road that you were feeling before. Load capacity is good on that tire for your truck. If you can clear the 37" would be the next question, BFG shows that tire at 36.5" you would probably need to do some fender well modifications to avoid rubbing though.

If you take a tape measure and put it to your current tire and measure 1" taller and 1/2" on each sidewall bigger, do you have the room? Turning lock-lock?

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