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ahh looked again I think your right

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Yes, it is OEM. The tie rod is hiding the hex end of the spindle. @ZMANN , the track bar is the only thing not Carli, it is Pure Performance (was saving a few $$). I may have missed the sleeves if they were in the box. I honestly don't remember there being any, and I can assure I didn't put any in. So, if it should have these, where can I buy some?

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they are made special for the intended setup to keep the heim in position
so if they are missing Pure Performance is where you would want to get them


really need to critique any movement on the heim end of that bar it should not slide up or down the mounting bolt and shouldn't have any wiggle

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does not show any in the promo pic

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the Pure bar states for 0 to 4" lift

if I were you since your having issue at 4.5 i would install the drop pit man and track bracket you have

in theory you should be able to use the Pure bar again but you may be able to go stock and be centered

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A lot of people think the factory ball joint is crap. Usually, it means their lift/track bar isn't optimized for their application.

The ball joint can only swing so much; thus, pulling it to one side or the other will put it into bind and destroy it in extended travel applications. If you're running a Carli kit, it's designed for around 50% more travel than stock. Any bar claiming 0-4.5" of lift without a drop isn't going to offer any track bar ball joint angle correction as that would be damaging to a stock application. Our bar is optimized for 2.5"-4.5" of lift so you'll see that our track bar ball joint receiver is angled to alleviate the angle of the ball joint at a lifted ride height as seen here:



I just ran out and took a picture of Sage's so you can see the position of the track bar ball joint on his 4.5" lift. You can see there's plenty of droop and compression before that ball joint goes into bind where your attached picture on page 2 shows very little room for droop before binding.

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I love the OEM BJ ;-)

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@OCVeloMan , I think you're confirming what my original suspicion is, and that the bore angle of the track bar could be the route of my problems. The ball joint in Sage's is damn near verticle (left-right), where mine is definitely already ****ed toward the driver side.

That's what I get for trying to save a few $$. Looks like a Carli track bar is in my near future....

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you have the drop pitman and trac bracket

anyone besides me say give them a try to get the angles back to OEM ?

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you have the drop pitman and trac bracket

anyone besides me say give them a try to get the angles back to OEM ?

The cheapskate in me would agree to try this. But I question how it will affect the design and performance of the Calri lift. As I read the post from OCVeloMan, I would be concerned that I end up binding things when flexing the suspension. I'm kind of at the point of making sure my install is exactly as Carli specifies instead of chasing work arounds. That way if I continue to have issues, at least I would feel comfortable calling them to work things out. As it is now, I have a bit of a Frankenstein, so it's not like I can call Carli's support for help (or Pure Performance's for that matter...).

Not sure yet which direction I'll go...
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