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11-24-2013 06:24 AM
Term3 When I flushed my trans I used an old pan and cut a 1" hole in it directly inline with the attachment point of the internal filter, I used the end tube of an old internal filter and clamped a clear hose to it, I cut another 1 1/2" hole at the lowest part of the trans pan and hooked up another clear hose. When bolting the pan back up I pushed the 1" hose in so the filter end tube connected to the usual spot and hooked up the other end of the 1" hose to a 5 gallon pail with new trans fluid which I had resting on a wooden stand so it was the same level as the trans. Then the end of the 1 1/2" hose I had in a large plastic drip pan. I then started my truck and moved it from park, to drive, to park, to reverse several times as a buddy watches the ATF coming out into the drip pan and let's me know when he sees the colour change once the new ATF has forced all the old ATF thru the transmission and is hitting the trans pan. It was very easy to see when the new ATF was finally exiting the transmission.


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11-24-2013 05:42 AM
npccpartsman
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Interesting, so if I wanted to do this I would just order an 09 filter and new pan from Tousley and that would filter better? Ill check prices when I go to do the job next time. Is the pan larger? (Hold more fluid?)
The toilet paper roll filter only filters something like 10% of the time IIRC. The early model in pan filters are only supposed to be changed in case of catastrophic failure. The late model filter, as Zmann said, filter 100% of the time and allow you to do away with the toilet paper roll if you so desire. I'm not sure on the capacity of the new pan. If it is it's not much.

Concerning the A/M pans: According to the engineer, Ford did EXTENSIVE testing on a large number of them and found absolutely NO benefit in them from temperature control to added capacity, so save your $$$. I'm not trying to start anything by saying this, just repeating the information.
11-22-2013 12:43 PM
jetjock15 Interesting, so if I wanted to do this I would just order an 09 filter and new pan from Tousley and that would filter better? Ill check prices when I go to do the job next time. Is the pan larger? (Hold more fluid?)
11-22-2013 12:07 PM
ZMANN Jet
I think your missing the whole point of the 08 upgrade
it filters 100% of the fluid 100% of the time
yours recirculates anything that can pas through the screen in the pan almost all the time since the external filter is bypassed until the trans hits 180 or there abouts

the remote filter is 50 ish bucks the 08+ in pan filter is much less and made by Fram

check the service interval on the later 08 vs us it's farther apart for a reason


I bought a Derale pan $140 the filter $20 and 14 qts of LV fluid x $3 still cheaper than the dealer flush I had done last time
11-22-2013 11:57 AM
jetjock15
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Originally Posted by npccpartsman View Post
This has been suggested on FTE and our resident 5R110 Ford engineer says it's a VERY bad idea.
OK, good enough for me, I wont do it lol. I just replace the two filters and as much fluid as I can every 20k (towing nearly entire time). I see no reason to not use the 06 filters ford sells me for my 06 tranny. If 08+ filters were better wouldn't for recommend that? I did not read all the other posts, but do I understand it correctly that you can use the 08+ belly filter, but you have to buy the 08+ pan? - no way im doing that, sounds expensive - my tranny has lasted so far!
11-22-2013 09:17 AM
BWWilliams
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Yes, it's really worth doing and no you do not have to use the external filter. You can remove the toilet paper roll and reinstall the housing and be fine.
oh ok thanks. is it bad idea to KEEP the external filter for added protection? and with the other pan and filter is the cap. the same as before? and what are the service intervals after switching over?
11-22-2013 08:31 AM
npccpartsman
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Originally Posted by jetjock15 View Post
. So if I start truck with pan and both filters removed, she will pump out a few quarts if I let her run for 10-20 seconds...........
This has been suggested on FTE and our resident 5R110 Ford engineer says it's a VERY bad idea.
11-22-2013 08:25 AM
npccpartsman
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Originally Posted by BWWilliams View Post
oh is that really worth doing? and do you continue to utilize the '06 external filter?
Anybody?
Yes, it's really worth doing and no you do not have to use the external filter. You can remove the toilet paper roll and reinstall the housing and be fine.
11-22-2013 08:10 AM
BWWilliams oh is that really worth doing? and do you continue to utilize the '06 external filter?
Anybody?
11-21-2013 04:22 PM
ZMANN
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Originally Posted by npccpartsman View Post
Pan AND filter from the '08 and up torqshift.
go for a 09 up to be safe since the switch wasn't made when the 6.4 came out it was later
better yet get a Derale pan it fits all the years

I think anyone who starts there truck with no fluid in the pan and the filters out is nuts
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