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01-06-2020 11:25 PM
84flatbed
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Originally Posted by SalmoTruta View Post
I purchase a Certified Pre-Owned 2018 f250 XLT for 40K six months ago from a local dealer. I stopped buying new 10 years ago due to the rapid depreciation in the first few years. It's not hard to find a truck in "like new condition" thats a year or two old. A Certified Pre-Owned vehicle also comes with a factory extended warranty and goes through an extensive check up. The only catch is that not all dealers are able to certify used vehicles. So buyers beware, you may find the same vehicle at a different dealership for a little less, but it may not have the extended warranty.
So far I have had good luck with this buying process.
Any idea what the MSRP was on that truck?

I was in the market for a low miles, 1-2 year old truck for awhile, and looked at a couple nice ones. Unlike yourself, I found the CPO trucks to have higher miles, or more flaws than the non cpo trucks I that I saw. To be fair, I didn't look at a whole lot of them.
There is potential to get a brand new Superduty at a pretty substantial discount, that can make the spread between new and used not so far apart, so in my case I went new.

The 12 month CPO
extended warranty is nice, but generally the dealer has added some additional cost into the purchase price, or at least they try to, so you are pretty much paying for it. It costs the dealer $ to CPO it. Im not sure what it would cost to get comparable coverage outside the purchase(non cpo truck)
Also, unlike the original warranty, extended warranties have a deductible.
01-06-2020 10:52 PM
SalmoTruta I purchase a Certified Pre-Owned 2018 f250 XLT for 40K six months ago from a local dealer. I stopped buying new 10 years ago due to the rapid depreciation in the first few years. It's not hard to find a truck in "like new condition" thats a year or two old. A Certified Pre-Owned vehicle also comes with a factory extended warranty and goes through an extensive check up. The only catch is that not all dealers are able to certify used vehicles. So buyers beware, you may find the same vehicle at a different dealership for a little less, but it may not have the extended warranty.
So far I have had good luck with this buying process.
12-17-2019 07:47 AM
84flatbed
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Originally Posted by ChrisSki View Post
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How would out the door help you when TTL vary greatly from state to state? The best price comparison is done without including any add ons or TTL. All you should be looking at is dealer discount and rebates. Maybe fees if you are in an area where fees can vary.

Other things like extended warranties can be price compared aside from the truck pricing.
At the very beginning of the process, and would like to know what the real price is. Helps with the budget.

Haven't bought a new vehicle since 2006. Except the fifth wheel, and what I paid over sticker price to get it out the door with a warranty was a shock.

A new truck will come, someday. Would be nice to know how much it costs. Kind of getting the feeling its like a house in a development. One price is listed, but the you're obligated to get 5% add ons, but most people get 20%.
I dont live in an area that has a standard practice of forcing add-ons, it's just not a thing dealers do here. Fees are very minimal too. Where we get hit hard is state fees and taxes, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the dealer and can be figured out online. I would never purchase a vehicle that has dealer add ins just thrown into the total price without a detailed breakdown of cost. And then you still would only compare dealer discount and rebates on the vehicle price, aside from anything else.

Chances of you finding someone who purchased the same truck, with the same dealer add ons, from the same state is slim. Also, looking at the deal as one lump sum is exactly what the dealer want, much easier to hide pricing that way. Any deal you look at should be detailed and itemized.
12-17-2019 03:55 AM
ChrisSki
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Originally Posted by 84flatbed View Post
How would out the door help you when TTL vary greatly from state to state? The best price comparison is done without including any add ons or TTL. All you should be looking at is dealer discount and rebates. Maybe fees if you are in an area where fees can vary.

Other things like extended warranties can be price compared aside from the truck pricing.
At the very beginning of the process, and would like to know what the real price is. Helps with the budget.

Haven't bought a new vehicle since 2006. Except the fifth wheel, and what I paid over sticker price to get it out the door with a warranty was a shock.

A new truck will come, someday. Would be nice to know how much it costs. Kind of getting the feeling its like a house in a development. One price is listed, but the you're obligated to get 5% add ons, but most people get 20%.
12-16-2019 10:49 PM
84flatbed
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Originally Posted by ChrisSki View Post
What I'd like to know is are the prices you're putting include aftermarket things like extended warranties and all the other options?

Just based off the experience on getting a new fifth wheel, I would think that a 10% discount would be paid back to the dealer with the customer purchasing aftermarket options and then taxes. The price out the door price with tags on the truck, taxes paid, and aftermarket options, is what would really help me plan what I should spend.
How would out the door help you when TTL vary greatly from state to state? The best price comparison is done without including any add ons or TTL. All you should be looking at is dealer discount and rebates. Maybe fees if you are in an area where fees can vary.

Other things like extended warranties can be price compared aside from the truck pricing.
12-05-2019 02:14 PM
Spirit
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Originally Posted by tech10002 View Post
Paid $68596 plus tax on a 2019 F250 CCSB King Ranch Ultimate just about completely loaded with a $80825 sticker. Ended up being just a little over invoice - holdback - rebates. It was around 15% off msrp with a $3500 private cash offer. You can do better percentage wise on lower trim trucks but I think itís pretty hard to get below invoice - holdback - rebates on Lariat and higher. Had to contact quite a few dealers before finding one willing to do that, and I had to drive 400 miles. Local dealer had the exact same truck down to the color and wouldnít come within 5k of that.

Iíve had the best luck in every Ford Iíve bought by searching zip codes of areas within a distance Iím willing to drive to on Ford direct and finding vehicles Iíd be interested in. Then just mass blast emails to many dealers and basically say ďearn my business.Ē Youíll find out fast whoís willing to deal and who isnít.

Good luck.

That's exactly what I do -- cover a lot of dealers by using email and phone. Like you said, the serious ones will respond. I would add to that, never ever trade-in a vehicle.

The only time I want to visit a dealership is to close and pick-up the keys. If the negotiations were particularly contentious, it's sometimes better to have them deliver the vehicle...lol.
12-05-2019 11:29 AM
scha0786 youll love the power of that 6.7.
12-05-2019 11:27 AM
ChrisSki What I'd like to know is are the prices you're putting include aftermarket things like extended warranties and all the other options?

Just based off the experience on getting a new fifth wheel, I would think that a 10% discount would be paid back to the dealer with the customer purchasing aftermarket options and then taxes. The price out the door price with tags on the truck, taxes paid, and aftermarket options, is what would really help me plan what I should spend.
12-05-2019 10:14 AM
Deanooohhh Just got back into a Powerstroke a few weeks ago. I took advantage knowing the 2020 Superduty will be hitting lots soon. I bought a new 2019 F250 Lariat with Lariat Ultimate package. Had everything except sun roof. MSRP was $73k. They applied all rebates and I got it for $60k+TTL. The Dealer had already discounted the truck almost $9k. The rest was rebates. So far I am loving the truck. I've been in 2 F150s and a short stint in a Ram3500 since my last Superduty. This truck is a beast!
09-20-2019 12:30 PM
84flatbed
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Originally Posted by 84flatbed View Post
That doesnt really tell us much. What was MSRP, how much did the dealer discount excluding any rebates? OTD isn't the most helpful way to compare what others paid either. You could be in a state that has very little ttl, someone else could have an extra 10% in ttl.
MSRP 81K, ford discounted 13k with every rebate under the sun. 1.2K for taxes. Carried over 1K from trade in. Anyways, 2019s should be flying off lots because 2020 orders are in. Went 2019 due to reliability of the 6R140 and motor.
That's a perfect example of why OTD means nothing. Taxes are applied to the after dealer discount price, before rebates and can vary greatly. For me, taxes and other state related fees were $7k on a less expensive truck.

Some of that $13k must have been dealer discount, Ford rebates alone cant equal $13k. How much did your dealer knock off before rebates?
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