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post #1 of 37 Old 11-04-2019, 10:00 PM Thread Starter
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Oh look! Another additive thread.

I really like this dudes videos. He seems to test things well, and isnít sponsored by anyone so heís fairly unbiased. I got on my YouTubes today and lo and behold, heís testing diesel fuel additives.

Iíll be honest, Iím thinking about changing my additive. Thereís a ton of talk around the CP4 failures being due to lack of lubricity in ULSD. I run an additive every tank. Now Iím rethinking which additive Iím going to use.

For the record, Iím not affiliated with him or any additive in any way. Iím sure someone will have a problem with how he tests things, I just thought Iíd throw this up for conversations sake.

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Well...running plain two-stroke for lubrication is sort of obvious as to what the results should be. Interesting to see the wear results when using these products. I might have to see about the Hot's Shot as well as one other I'll keep an eye out for around my travels. I wish he would have done a cost breakdown per dose per product. Maybe I'll try adding some two stroke since it's not going to hurt anything....LOL



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Yeah, doesnít the two stroke thing come from the 7.3s? Iím not so sure about that in my 6.7 but Iím probably going to try the Hot Shots as well. Iíve used the silver Power Service, Stanadyne and Howeís. Howeís is the easier to come by so Iíve used it the most.

Iím just trying to save this CP4.

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I love this guys videos. He tests everything in ways that the average guy can understand. After watching it I may consider switching which additive I use. But I always add 1 oz per gallon 2 stroke regardless.
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Very good video of a guy using everyday equipment to do tests that you can see the results from. Its definitely got me rethinking my winter additive switch.
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Always enjoy this guys vids, and learn in the process ...things don't always turn out like I think they will

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Well...running plain two-stroke for lubrication is sort of obvious as to what the results should be. Interesting to see the wear results when using these products. I might have to see about the Hot's Shot as well as one other I'll keep an eye out for around my travels. I wish he would have done a cost breakdown per dose per product. Maybe I'll try adding some two stroke since it's not going to hurt anything....LOL
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Yeah, doesnít the two stroke thing come from the 7.3s? Iím not so sure about that in my 6.7 but Iím probably going to try the Hot Shots as well. Iíve used the silver Power Service, Stanadyne and Howeís. Howeís is the easier to come by so Iíve used it the most.

Iím just trying to save this CP4.
If your truck has the intact/running emissions system the two stroke oil can cause faster clogging/ more frequent regens and damage but if its gone it wont hurt anything. I noticed a much smoother idle on my 6.0ls but didn't notice squat on the 99 7.3l. Personally I feel the specifically made diesel fuel additives got me something worth the hassel vs buying the 1 gal jug of two stroke and adding almost 1quart per tank. I have only seen a fuel economy increase fuel treatments with winter blend diesels. Never saw nothing in summer with the exception of 3 tanks in a row I got .5-ish mpg boost using this not popular rolling big power fuel treatment a mechanic told me to use when I was very new to 6.0ls.

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I was all about to jump on the switching my additive team...until I looked closer. I've run power service each winter without any problems...but seeing how poorly it did in lubrication made me think of switching over to Hot Shots, which did awesome.

For the anti-gel test, I don't think it was done correctly because he appears to add the same dose of each type of additive to each jar, 2 teaspoons it looks like. This is bogus because they are greatly different concentrations. Hot shots says 3.2oz per 25 gallons of fuel, where as power service says 8oz per 25 gallons of fuel. So of course the hot shots will do better, he added almost 3x the concentration for anti-gelling compared to power service! Looks like stanadyn is 6.5oz per 25 gallons and Howes is 10oz per 25 gallons. Using the correct concentration is key!

Edit: Actually after re-watching it, he uses different spoon measurements for each jar...hard to tell how much he added of each. I really hope he was using the correct dosages for an equal comparison!

The lubrication seems legit though with just the straight additives, and may be worth the switch to hot shots just for that. GREAT video, thanks for the post!
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I've used PS for years now without any issues. I used the 911 once because my fuel had gelled up in my 5 gallon jugs. Lo and behold 911 worked like magic.
as @onecrazyfoo4u said, I am questioning the dosage used in each jar.
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Yeah, it's really hard to tell with how fast he zooms through the dosages...but it's a different spoon for each one...and multiple spoons for some. He definitely didn't do the correct dosage for some of them...which should be done to compare apples to apples for gelling. You do the math, and to treat 0.5 gal of fuel, most of those should have been 1/2 teaspoon or less...and he's adding a couple tablespoons of some of them. I definitely wouldn't go off this test for gelling purposes.

But for lubrication and corrosion purposes, it was crazy to see how poorly power service did compared to hot shots or stanadyne. I may make the switch just for those benefits.
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