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post #21 of 33 Old 01-03-2019, 01:56 PM
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Ok am I missing something here? At night I just plug mine into an extension cord running out from the garage. Been doing that for years without an issue...
I do the same thing. if i work 10 hours the truck is plugged in the other 14hours of the day. However its very inefficient energy wise. These guys are trying to save power which i can understand. However my entire power bill for last month(nov 15-dec15) was only 109$. This includes natural gas and having the truck plugged in all night every night. I do not know what it costs to keep it plugged in but its not alot.

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figure a kilowatt an hour check your local prices since most rate $ in kilowatt per hour it makes the math easy

my local is 7.3 per kWH

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it may be a non issue but
i don't like to leave mine plugged in too long since the element is sitting in non moving and a limited volume of liquid
I do not want to cook the coolant in that area

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Ok am I missing something here? At night I just plug mine into an extension cord running out from the garage. Been doing that for years without an issue...
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I do the same thing. if i work 10 hours the truck is plugged in the other 14hours of the day. However its very inefficient energy wise. These guys are trying to save power which i can understand. However my entire power bill for last month(nov 15-dec15) was only 109$. This includes natural gas and having the truck plugged in all night every night. I do not know what it costs to keep it plugged in but its not alot.
For my use, it is not because of the cold so much as it is the short drives. We might see lows in the 20s and occasionally teens. I want the engine to get >180 before I get where I'm going. The trans will hit 160 easy but the engine struggles to get to 150 in a 15 mile drive.
That said, generally speaking any more than 4 hours on the heater is not doing anything. Even at sub 0*f most (if not all) manufacturers say 3-4 hours is enough. At least from what I've read. At a certain point the air will suck as much heat out as the heater is putting in.
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it may be a non issue but
i don't like to leave mine plugged in too long since the element is sitting in non moving and a limited volume of liquid
I do not want to cook the coolant in that area
I dont know about the PS so much, but generators block heaters move coolant by convection through the water jackets. If/ when they get hot enough, the T stats will open and warm coolant will flow to the radiator. Cool, dense coolant will make its way through the bottom hose towards the heater. Even if the stats do not open, they have a small hole on the flange that allows coolant to bypass the stats so the water pump doesn't cavitate in stagnant coolant. Pumps that cavitate too long dont last.


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i have never experienced the block heater open a tstat at 190 heat the radiator coolant even when plugged in for a long time i get about 100* on the guage and it drops as soon as the t stat opens ( telling me the radiator coolant is ambient temp)

they do sell a nice circulating heater that goes inline with the radiator hose

IMO the motor is too big of a heat sink to get the whole system warmed up



I was more concerned about this when running coolant with silicate

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No, I don't see the stat opening on a truck either but it isnt an enclosed insulated engine bay. Still, the coolant isn't stagnant.
The 1000 watt heater is only enough to increase the temperature of 3412 pounds of water 1*f. Offhand I don't know the difference between metal and water but the engine is plenty big. Except for the concern over silicates, I don't think you could run the heater "too long" . I do think that after a few hours the engine rejects as much heat as you are adding.


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At first I couldnt figure out why it was staying in so long. The countdown was far from accurate. I set it for 3 hours and it was still in after 4. Every time I looked at it in the app, it was still counting down but it was like it paused every so often. I still dont know why for sure, but I moved it to an outlet in the other side of the garage where it has a better Wi-Fi signal and it seems to work correctly. The far side of the garage had a 43% signal and the near side has a 63% signal. Maybe it uses internet time? Seems silly but today will ne the third day I've tested it in the new location.


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I use a Kaza tp link app controlled switch. It will do count down, you can program it or just turn it on or off from your phone. It’s rated for 15 amps. They only cost around 14 bucks.
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I use a Kaza tp link app controlled switch. It will do count down, you can program it or just turn it on or off from your phone. It’s rated for 15 amps. They only cost around 14 bucks.
I looked into the outlets as well. The ONLY thing that kept me from going that route was I'd be tied to that outlet only. Or, I could have bought 3 and put them in the three spaces I would be plugging the truck in. My driveway gets crazy with the wife's routine and the kid coming home from school. So I wanted to keep the option of using it no matter where I parked.
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It has been working great using the outlets closest to the router. The farthest one was where I had the issue. It would turn on fine, and I could turn it off. The countdown clock was just getting hosed up. In the end, I am very happy with it. It has been snow tested. I had the truck at the end of the driveway last weekend and plugged it into the outlet on the porch. Haven't used it in the rain, but it is supposedly rated for wet locations as long as the outlets face down. My exterior outlets are weatherproof while in use. There is a plastic cover that encompasses the outlet while you jave stuff plugged in.
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