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Winterizer / Antigel needed?

I live in Northwest Indiana and have always used PowerService Diesel Fuel Supplement Winterizer/Antigel in the past during cold weather. The instruction manual on the new truck says Diesel Fuel is adjusted seasonally for cold temperatures by the gas station, so no additives should be needed. Question is does anybody trust the fuel from gas stations to not gel up in really cold weather, or are you still adding winterizer to your fuel?
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I live in Northwest Indiana and have always used PowerService Diesel Fuel Supplement Winterizer/Antigel in the past during cold weather. The instruction manual on the new truck says Diesel Fuel is adjusted seasonally for cold temperatures by the gas station, so no additives should be needed. Question is does anybody trust the fuel from gas stations to not gel up in really cold weather, or are you still adding winterizer to your fuel?


I’ve never used any additives in any of my Fords. Never had an issue. Not bashing, in central Wisconsin, it’s gets pretty brutal, just lucky?


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I have used the Power Service silver bottle additive in summer and white bottle winter additive in winter for many years. I add the winter blend when temps are below 10 degrees f overnight.
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My truck gelled up last year even with additives... I live in MN and don't trust anything that comes out of the pump to be properly treated during the winter.

If you live anywhere that gets well below 0 it honestly isn't worth the hassle to not use an additive.
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Do the 2017's + have a fuel heater? I know the DEF tanks do but wasn't sure about the fuel side. If my memory is correct, my 6.0 had a fuel heater but not sure if that was brought forward in the newer models.
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I use additive for the lubrication and demulsifier. I have never had an issue with gelling. But it only gets into the teens here.
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Do the 2017's + have a fuel heater? I know the DEF tanks do but wasn't sure about the fuel side. If my memory is correct, my 6.0 had a fuel heater but not sure if that was brought forward in the newer models.
The 6.7L engine push fuel thru the Common rail and all excess goes back to the tank and re-circulates. This process heats the fuel and keeps the fuel in the tank and fuel lines warm while driving in cold weather.

If you never shut your engine off. The fuel would always stay warm and never gel.
The problem comes when you shut the engine down and let the truck Cold Soak.
When the fuel gets below 0° then you need a winterized fuel and can hope the refinery did the job or add your own anti-gel to make sure.
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From the 2011 6.7L Coffee Table Book Things might have changed for 2017 and newer, But gives you a general idea


"A fuel cooler is located on the left frame rail foward of the DFCM. The black fuel line is used for fuel return from the engine to the cooler. The gray fuel line returns fuel from the cooler to th DFCM. Depending on the temperature of the fuel from the injectors, the fuel cooler can be used to cool or heat the fuel going back the DFCM. The powertrain secondary cooling system provides the coolant for the fuel cooler."
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IMHO, an anti gel is not NORMALLY needed. Sure, the fuel is treated for your region. Thing is, when sudden extremes happen then you are SOL.
I remember at least 2 times in the mid atlantic region there were cold spells that left us in the 20's for highs. That is not typical of the area. That posed a problem for some folks, especially in higher elevations where the lows fell to single digits.
I'll keep using an additive. More so because my rig will sit for a few days at a time. Dropping an additive in is not as much of a bother as a truck that wont start.
Edit- good read:
https://www.fuelsnews.com/diesel-tanks-gelling-winter/

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I use the Stanadyne performance additive. Went up to Plattsburgh (near Canadian border) a few years ago. 10 below. Fuel system totally gelled. Now I use the Ford antigel when it gets below 10 degrees. no problems since.
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